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| soldar:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 14, 2019, 12:20:38 pm --- There is usually nothing inherently illegal against lying about credentials unless you do it for profit or some such which pushes it into fraud. At least here anyway. --- End quote --- Depends. Lying to a potential date about how you are a famed electrical engineer with great sexual prowess? Probably not illegal. Lying to a US Government official verbally or in writing? Very illegal. That is how they get you. They badger someone until they can get them in a small lie and then it snowballs from there. Even if the lie has no consequences it is illegal and they can get you. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 14, 2019, 12:26:03 pm ---Please provide evidence of that. As far as I am aware you cannot be fined for doing your own wiring. What can happen though is that if something goes wrong then your insurance can be invalidated. Or if someone got injured and/or died as a result you might be liable. That differs from regular (non mains) EE work were using "best practice" usually is enough to legally protect you. Yes, EE's like myself are not permitted to do our own wiring regardless of any level of qualification, technically not even allowed to change a power point. But you won't get fined for it. I am not aware of a single case were that has happened. --- End quote --- To be fair, the potential financial and criminal liability are more of a deterrent than a fine would be. |
| digsys:
--- Quote from: EEVblog ---Yes, EE's like myself are not permitted to do our own wiring regardless of any level of qualification, technically not even allowed to change a power point. But you won't get fined for it. I am not aware of a single case were that has happened. --- End quote --- Actually, it's even easier than that. You can pretty much wire up whatever the heck you want, as long as a licensed electrician inspect it and signs off on it ! Naturally, you provide details of cable / component approval certificates, or source, but that's about it. If you happen to know a few electricians, it's pretty easy :-) |
| SiliconWizard:
I don't think it is illegal per se in most countries (there may be exceptions), but that needs to be further explained. I would think the following: - Lying about a degree in your resume is not illegal per se, but if discovered after you got employed, it's usually a reason for breaking a work contract on a legal ground (contractually). It would be considered deceptive. Depending on the position, responsibilites and job risks, the company may not just fire you but may also sue you asking for damages. - Working as a professional in a regulated field requiring a specific degree/credentials, such as medical doctors, civil engineeers, etc, without actually having this degree *is* illegal. The fact that you lied is an aggravating point, but even if you never objectively lied about it, assuming that you got by never being asked, just not having it makes the practice illegal. - Actually producing a copy of a degree you don't have is producing a fake document and *is* illegal in many, if not all countries in the world. Of course local laws may have some additional clauses about this. |
| iMo:
Most probably anywhere in the world when you start to push hard at authorities, where the implication of such pushing could be an evidence the authorities provided a wrong doing (with $$ or legal impacts), they start to react - the reaction of that authority was a bit childish, imho, most probably their lawyers own the right license, but less practical experience :) |
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