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| soldar:
--- Quote from: imo on July 14, 2019, 02:33:31 pm --- there have been many cases in EU recently the high profile people were fired from their positions because they cheated while they wrote their thesis, based on which they got an academic title. --- End quote --- That's in the "first world" part of the EU. In Spain if you cheat you gain points because you are considered bright. Why work when you can cheat? Everybody does it! Most famously our prime minister, Pedro Sanchez, put his name to a book that he didn't write and also had his master's thesis done for him. Bright guy and just who we need to deal with world powers in our name. :) It has been reported in the media and he famously said he would sue for defamation the site that reported it. From that day that site carries a banner at the top which counts the number of days since the threat was issued "and the lawsuit has not arrived yet". (304 days as of today.) The guy is a crook and a liar and Spain loves him for it. Greece exists only so Spain cannot be the worst EU country. |
| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: soldar on July 14, 2019, 03:51:58 pm ---Greece exists only so Spain cannot be the worst EU country. --- End quote --- Ahem. :-DD |
| wilmer:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 14, 2019, 12:26:03 pm --- --- Quote from: wilmer on July 14, 2019, 12:17:44 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2017, 01:44:49 pm --- --- Quote from: NANDBlog on April 26, 2017, 01:39:03 pm ---I did not read this before. If this is true, than probably he just did not register at the Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering. In fact, I change my mind, Oregon can fuck off. So if I would go there, not register myself, I wouldn't be allowed to use my title? --- End quote --- I'd be extending the big middle finger too. Most practicing EE's in oz are not members of the Institute of Engineers Australia for example, nor is it a requirement for practically any EE job in the country. They have a fancy Chartered Professional Engineer title, but it's well known that only wankers have that ;D --- End quote --- But in Australia, if you do the crime of been electrical engineer and connect a wire at your home. You can get a fine of 1 million. --- End quote --- Please provide evidence of that. As far as I am aware you cannot be fined for doing your own wiring. What can happen though is that if something goes wrong then your insurance can be invalidated. Or if someone got injured and/or died as a result you might be liable. That differs from regular (non mains) EE work were using "best practice" usually is enough to legally protect you. Yes, EE's like myself are not permitted to do our own wiring regardless of any level of qualification, technically not even allowed to change a power point. But you won't get fined for it. I am not aware of a single case were that has happened. --- End quote --- But the law explicitly said that you will be fine if you do electrical work. Not if you work as electrician. If someone decides to report that you change a socket. You will get fine. That law should be change to include a short path for engineers. A gap course should be enough and not 4 years of apprenticeship. Sent from my Nokia 3.1 using Tapatalk |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: soldar on July 14, 2019, 03:03:32 pm ---But, yes, in some countries forging certain documents can be strict liability crimes while in others mens rea must be proven. --- End quote --- Here in NSW for document forgery to be a crime you have to actually gain financial gain from it, or, like may be relevant in this example: "influence the exercise of a public duty" http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s253.html They even specify a valid defense being that: "No financial advantage was gained or no financial disadvantage was done." So the act of actually forging and possessing and showing a forged document is not a crime. You even even allowed to trick people into believing it's genuine because to be a crime they must prove that you a) "to induce some person to accept it as genuine, and" gained financial advantage from it. |
| wilmer:
What I see is that Oregon association lobby for creating a law that forces people to subscribe to them. it is not about a license is just a subscription. A friend who works in the USA has never been required to produce a license or subscription to work as a maintenance engineer. She does not even validate the title in USA. |
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