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| james_s:
Once in a great while common sense prevails. It takes someone willing to fight a matter on principal instead of only considering the cost vs immediate benefit to themselves and just capitulating. |
| angrybird:
Take a look at what is happening to the red light/speeding cameras elsewhere... Some areas have seen so much vandalism that they shut them all down :-DD In the USA, you have the right to face your accuser. This is the primary argument against these cameras, and I completely agree with it... If there were a camera near my house, I would be one of the vandalizers... Stickers over the lenses work wonders! Though some people seem to outright smash them :box: |
| CatalinaWOW:
I don't like red light cameras. But at numerous intersections I have driven a red light camera was the difference between 6-12 cars "stretching" a light into my own green and one or none. Obviously most of those 6-12 were aware they were in violation and only the threat of a ticket stopped them. |
| james_s:
Red light runners seriously annoy me. Initially I was in support of the cameras but then I saw the way they were abused in the quest for revenue and that put me off to them. I think if they're going to have a red light camera the amber light interval should be required to be at least a certain length depending on characteristics of the road, and the camera should only trip if one enters the intersection on red, someone should not be punished for getting stuck in an intersection due to traffic suddenly stopping, pedestrian jaywalking, etc. |
| sassywren:
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on March 03, 2020, 05:00:35 am ---I don't like red light cameras. But at numerous intersections I have driven a red light camera was the difference between 6-12 cars "stretching" a light into my own green and one or none. Obviously most of those 6-12 were aware they were in violation and only the threat of a ticket stopped them. --- End quote --- I think this is something that should be addressed in the drivers training - most of the USA is painfully aware of how lax the rules are for obtaining a driver's license... The driving tests should be mandatory at least upon license renewal, they don't even do real vision tests in many of the states. This law regarding facing your accuser is not negotiable and this is why the speeding/red light cams continue to go up, go down, dissapear, constant controversy. In the end, I believe some municipalities will choose to keep them by finding ways around the law, and I guess if people don't like this, they can move elsewhere. I have been nabbed by the cameras in several major USA cities including san jose but none in oregon (that I am aware of!). Not even sure how they flagged me as I am a very careful driver, but somehow the camera decided I was guilty - Probably a left turn on a yellow light like in this gentleman's fight against the state! Since my residence/license were not from the states that issued the tickets, and the address on my license was forwarded to yet another address, nothing ever happened other than a series of threatening letters which eventually stopped. This, in itself, is a hilarity. |
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