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tszaboo:

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--- Quote from: NANDBlog on April 26, 2017, 12:34:07 pm ---I would really like if people without proper degree would stop calling them engineers. I have sworn an oath, just as doctors. They say "do no harm", I said "protect safety and health of people". If you did not do this, you are not entitled to call yourself an engineer, it is unethical.

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A degree is not sufficient qualification to represent oneself as a Professional Engineer (P.E.).

For example, I make no such representation of myself, other than my job title, and my given legal name (no additional titles).

If I were a PE, or Dr, or any other legally regulated profession, I would display that title proudly!

Tim

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My university diploma declares that I have obtained the "title": "Electrical engineer". This is an official translation.
(There is no electronics engineer or equivalent in my language.)


--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on April 26, 2017, 01:17:00 pm ---"A Beaverton man who has a bachelor of science degree in engineering

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I did not read this before. If this is true, than probably he just did not register at the  Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering. In fact, I change my mind, Oregon can fuck off. So if I would go there, not register myself, I wouldn't be allowed to use my title?
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: NANDBlog on April 26, 2017, 01:39:03 pm ---I did not read this before. If this is true, than probably he just did not register at the  Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering. In fact, I change my mind, Oregon can fuck off. So if I would go there, not register myself, I wouldn't be allowed to use my title?

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I'd be extending the big middle finger too.
Most practicing EE's in oz are not members of the Institute of Engineers Australia for example, nor is it a requirement for practically any EE job in the country.
They have a fancy Chartered Professional Engineer title, but it's well known that only wankers have that  ;D
GeorgeOfTheJungle:

--- Quote from: NANDBlog on April 26, 2017, 01:39:03 pm ---In fact, I change my mind, Oregon can fuck off.

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+1
GeorgeOfTheJungle:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2017, 01:44:49 pm ---They have a fancy Chartered Professional Engineer title, but it's well known that only wankers have that  ;D

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That ! Hahaha.
rrinker:
 It's the case in many states in the US, you cannot practice under the title "Engineer" without passing the state exam. Like any other
 profession. I can't open an office and put a sign out calling myself an engineer without having passed the state exam. Although it may be slightly more lenient now - if you DO pass the exam you can call yourself John Doe, P.E. (professional engineer) so it may be OK so long as you don't call yourself a PE.
 On the other hand, there's a good reason why I never bothered to take the exam here - an an EE, 50% f the test would be on EE subjects, the remaining 50% spread across other engineering disciplines like civil, mechanical, etc. So half of what is 'qualifying' me in my field requires knowledge in other fields of which I have no experience and of which I am making no such claims. Gotcha. I just never bothered and since I never really actually was employed as an EE it didn't matter.
 I wonder if my employer isn't treading on some thing ice - my title is "consulting engineer" which I am pretty sure at one time was not legal in this state but perhaps that has changed. It may be perfectly legal where the company HQ is.

 All in all though, this is really politics, not science. They guy is absolutely right, the officials couldn't let facts get in the way of their revenue generator though. There are numerous studies that implementing red light cameras CAUSE more accidents than then eliminate, on no small part to the deliberate setting of the yellow duration shorter. The are often provided by a third party who then splits the revenue with the local government.

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