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Man fined for criticizing govt using science, without a license

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T3sl4co1l:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2017, 02:26:38 pm ---This brings up the question:
What if you are say an applications engineer or some such, and you lived outside of Oregon, but part of your service region was Oregon. Would you have to surrender your business card that says "engineer" at the border, lest you were committing an offence giving someone that business card and giving them advice?

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For the licensed case: you would be unwise to present yourself as, say, a Professional Engineer in the state of Oregon, without holding that qualification.  Quite correct.

Anyone operating in a service region spanning several states, would need to be licensed in all those states.

For the exempted case: it doesn't matter.

Oregon has the usual exemptions for commercial EE style activities:
https://www.nspe.org/sites/default/files/resources/pdfs/state-by-state-summary-licensure-law-exemptions.pdf
so this guy is as much an "engineer" (lowercase) as the rest of us here without PEs.  Which is to say, the usual (degreed, job titled) kind.

Tim

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: T3sl4co1l on April 26, 2017, 02:39:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2017, 02:26:38 pm ---This brings up the question:
What if you are say an applications engineer or some such, and you lived outside of Oregon, but part of your service region was Oregon. Would you have to surrender your business card that says "engineer" at the border, lest you were committing an offence giving someone that business card and giving them advice?

--- End quote ---
For the licensed case: you would be unwise to present yourself as, say, a Professional Engineer in the state of Oregon, without holding that qualification.  Quite correct.

--- End quote ---

Of course. I'm talking about simply using the word "engineer"


--- Quote ---For the exempted case: it doesn't matter.
Oregon has the usual exemptions for commercial EE style activities:
https://www.nspe.org/sites/default/files/resources/pdfs/state-by-state-summary-licensure-law-exemptions.pdf
so this guy is as much an "engineer" (lowercase) as the rest of us here without PEs.  Which is to say, the usual (degreed, job titled) kind.

--- End quote ---

So why did the guy get fined for using the title "engineer"?

T3sl4co1l:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 26, 2017, 02:44:34 pm ---So why did the guy get fined for using the title "engineer"?

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They might maintain that the particular way he represented himself in the letters was wrong.  If he sues them over it, their defense isn't looking very good, though.  :popcorn:  (Aka they look like assholes)

Tim

Tom45:
Somebody should get ahold of the company directories of the various silicon forest companies* and file complaints about all of the "engineers" working in those companies. I bet things would change quickly.

My father was a PE and I know that it does mean something.

*silicon forest companies include Tektronix, Intel, HP, Maxim, Microchip, Epson, Mentor Graphics, NVidia, FLIR, Lattice, Linear Technologies.

Richard Crowley:
To those of us who live here, this isn't terribly surprising. The Oregon state government firmly in the control of the public employees unions who operate the government by and for themselves, the population be damned. They have voted themselves huge pensions so the point where in some cases the cost of retirement benefits exceeds the budget for current working employees.  And facing billion-dollar shortfalls in the pension scheme which they have no hope of meeting.  So the state government using their interpretation of the laws to fight criticism is quite expected here.

Furthermore, those red-light cameras in Beaverton (home of Tektronix) have been notorious since they were installed. The city government has all but admitted that they are simply a revenue-source that has nothing to do with "public safety". The timing of the signals in those intersections is measurably shorter than equivalent intersections in the area.  They have been the subject of reporting and dispute for decades. There are companies who subsidize the installation cost of these robot bandits for a percentage of the "fines" levied by the city. It would be scandalous if it hadn't become commonplace here after decades of corruption. My GPS warns me about these intersections so that I typically plan my route to avoid these traps.

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