General > General Technical Chat

Man fined for criticizing govt using science, without a license

<< < (15/63) > >>

vodka:

--- Quote from: coppice on April 26, 2017, 07:42:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: brucehoult on April 26, 2017, 07:35:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: mtdoc on April 26, 2017, 06:44:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: james_s on April 26, 2017, 06:10:50 pm --- In the 20 some years I've been driving I've never hit anything, never had a ticket, never even so much as a parking ticket, but I've lost count of the number of times I've been rear ended. It's frustrating beyond belief.

--- End quote ---

We all know that correlation != causation, but still, you might want to consider the possibility that there is some cause and effect relationship there.  :)

--- End quote ---

You are legally allowed to stop at any moment, without warning. It is ENTIRELY the responsibility of any following vehicle to maintain a separation sufficient to allow them to stop if you do.

--- End quote ---
While this is true, some people get hit in the back frequently while their neighbours never get hit. There just might be something in their behaviour which confuses other road users.

--- End quote ---

There are many subnormal people  who paste( less 3 m) to its ass(back) when you go to 120km\h  on dual carriageway. I have  never seen that any police put a fine by not leave a minnium security distance .



--- Quote from: Hero999 on April 26, 2017, 04:59:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: NANDBlog on April 26, 2017, 12:34:07 pm ---I would really like if people without proper degree would stop calling them engineers.
--- End quote ---
Since when did having a degree may you an engineer?

Is doesn't. Having a combination of theoretical knowledge and practical experience, makes one an engineer. Someone straight out of university, with a highly theoretical engineering degree, yet no practical experience whatsoever is not an engineer. This doesn't mean that they have wasted they're time studying. It's a very good investment, but until they've learned how to apply what they've learnt at university, and probably forgotten over half of it, they aren't really an engineer.

--- End quote ---

You don't wrong , you are a engineer so  much if you have  experience as if you haven't. And that on front a judge you will always prune versus a redneck without degree.

james_s:
Much of the problem now I think is people glued to their damn smartphones. Every day I see idiots weaving around with a phone in their hand, texting, screwing with facebook or whatever it is people do now. They say distracted driving is now as dangerous as driving drunk and it is reaching epidemic levels.

I've always tried to provide plenty of warning, slow gradually, creep to a stop, leave plenty of space in front of me whenever possible. I'm not aggressive, don't tailgate, dart in front of/behind other cars or slam on my brakes unless it's a true emergency. These days I'm so paranoid that I'm constantly glancing in my mirror and looking for somewhere to go if the person behind me is not paying attention. I don't drive particularly slowly either, I'm almost always going at least the speed limit or as fast as the car in front of me. In more than 20 years of driving ~200,000 miles I've never caused an accident, never got a ticket, only ever been pulled over once in my life and that was for a burned out light. I don't even know anyone with a cleaner record than that.

This time I bought a bright red Volvo turbo wagon to replace the darker colored sedan that was recently totaled. I generally prefer the darker colors but maybe now people will see me better and not run into me. For the record, the 30 year old 740 performed flawlessly in the accident, the reinforced cage and crumple zones worked exactly as designed. Hats off to the Swedes who designed the thing if any of them are still around, it fully lived up to the legendary reputation for safety despite no airbags or other band aids and I was able to get out and walk away after getting smashed in the rear tremendously hard and then spun around, hit in the side and pushed by the huge truck.

CatalinaWOW:
All of the states I have lived and worked in required the License to "practice engineering".  In most companies this is well hidden because some small number of licensed engineers are on the payroll and they sign off on all legally required documents.  The vast majority just design away depending on their degree or whatever.  No big deal, the public is protected and most people get to go along with their lives and jobs without interference.

The process to get licensed is fairly involved, and contrary to what others have said, difficult for all branches of engineering.  The civil guys have to learn material properties and power transmission while the electrical guys get to learn grading of curves and properties of beams.  It varies from state to state but usually breaks down into an Engineer in Training exam, followed by a duration in practice, and then the PE exam.  Anyone with sound math and the ability to study can pass, but it takes work and many fail one or both exams.  These tests do not reward creativity, they reward memorization and familiarity with standard solutions.  You can retake them, but it is expensive and time consuming. 

And this leads to the problems.  Those who pass now belong to a difficult and exclusive club, and want get some benefit out of their efforts.  Can't let all that time and effort go down the tubes without something to show for it.  In my observation it is always the more marginal guys who show this character most strongly.  I have rarely seen the brighter and most creative practitioners of our field tout their license (beyond listing it on the resume).  And except for the cases where a company is looking for someone to meet the above mentioned legal requirements I have never seen it looked for when recruiting or hiring consultants.  That alone tells volumes about this.

brucehoult:

--- Quote from: coppice on April 26, 2017, 07:42:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: brucehoult on April 26, 2017, 07:35:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: mtdoc on April 26, 2017, 06:44:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: james_s on April 26, 2017, 06:10:50 pm --- In the 20 some years I've been driving I've never hit anything, never had a ticket, never even so much as a parking ticket, but I've lost count of the number of times I've been rear ended. It's frustrating beyond belief.

--- End quote ---

We all know that correlation != causation, but still, you might want to consider the possibility that there is some cause and effect relationship there.  :)

--- End quote ---

You are legally allowed to stop at any moment, without warning. It is ENTIRELY the responsibility of any following vehicle to maintain a separation sufficient to allow them to stop if you do.

--- End quote ---
While this is true, some people get hit in the back frequently while their neighbours never get hit. There just might be something in their behaviour which confuses other road users.

--- End quote ---

I made the comment about being legally allowed to stop.

Of course emergency stops in the middle of the road for little apparent reason might not be prudent. Especially if you're a motorcyclist, as I am (with around half a million km behind me). I keep an eye on who is behind me, and if anyone is closer than I'm comfortable with I pull over and let them past. And then if they drive slower in front of me than they did behind me (surprisingly often) I overtake them again and repeat as many times as necessary until they damn well stop being stupid.

I've been in cars that have been rear-ended twice. Both times as a passenger with the same driver.

james_s:

--- Quote from: brucehoult on April 26, 2017, 08:55:41 pm ---I made the comment about being legally allowed to stop.

Of course emergency stops in the middle of the road for little apparent reason might not be prudent. Especially if you're a motorcyclist, as I am (with around half a million km behind me). I keep an eye on who is behind me, and if anyone is closer than I'm comfortable with I pull over and let them past. And then if they drive slower in front of me than they did behind me (surprisingly often) I overtake them again and repeat as many times as necessary until they damn well stop being stupid.

I've been in cars that have been rear-ended twice. Both times as a passenger with the same driver.

--- End quote ---

I used to work with a guy who had a prosthetic leg due to some idiot running a red light while he was on a motorcycle. That and having been rear ended a number of times in my car has been enough to keep me from getting a motorcycle though they look like a lot of fun. Some days it just feels like the universe is trying to kill me.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

There was an error while thanking
Thanking...
Go to full version
Powered by SMFPacks Advanced Attachments Uploader Mod