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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: kaz911 on April 27, 2017, 07:04:12 am ---I would prefer if organisation licensed engineers - was required to put in their license giver - so "Licensed/Certified Engineer by IEEE" or something like that. Right now the title of engineer is so watered down and differs from country to country.
So don't hog the generic title but show the license agency with the title if you need to.

--- End quote ---

The word "engineer" absolutely should not be protected.
By all means make up your certified stuff like CPEng etc and protect that, and then let market forces (or even laws were required) take care of who's allowed to do what.
But trying to protect the generic word engineer is the dumbest idea in history and will never work.
langwadt:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 27, 2017, 08:47:36 am ---
--- Quote from: kaz911 on April 27, 2017, 07:04:12 am ---I would prefer if organisation licensed engineers - was required to put in their license giver - so "Licensed/Certified Engineer by IEEE" or something like that. Right now the title of engineer is so watered down and differs from country to country.
So don't hog the generic title but show the license agency with the title if you need to.

--- End quote ---

The word "engineer" absolutely should not be protected.
By all means make up your certified stuff like CPEng etc and protect that, and then let market forces (or even laws were required) take care of who's allowed to do what.
But trying to protect the generic word engineer is the dumbest idea in history and will never work.

--- End quote ---

here engineer is not a protected title, anyone can call themselves engineer, though it generally means a Bsc or Msc in an engineering field.
Civilengineer( not specific to civil engineering) is protected you can only call yourself civilengineer if you have an Msc in an engineering field



grumpydoc:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 27, 2017, 08:47:36 am ---
--- Quote from: kaz911 on April 27, 2017, 07:04:12 am ---I would prefer if organisation licensed engineers - was required to put in their license giver - so "Licensed/Certified Engineer by IEEE" or something like that. Right now the title of engineer is so watered down and differs from country to country.
So don't hog the generic title but show the license agency with the title if you need to.

--- End quote ---

The word "engineer" absolutely should not be protected.
By all means make up your certified stuff like CPEng etc and protect that, and then let market forces (or even laws were required) take care of who's allowed to do what.
But trying to protect the generic word engineer is the dumbest idea in history and will never work.

--- End quote ---

Even trying to protect Doctor is difficult - anyone with a PhD can legitimately entitle themselves "Doctor". I believe that the current legally protected term in the UK is "Registered Medical Practitioner".
coppice:

--- Quote from: grumpydoc on April 27, 2017, 09:35:11 am ---Even trying to protect Doctor is difficult - anyone with a PhD can legitimately entitle themselves "Doctor". I believe that the current legally protected term in the UK is "Registered Medical Practitioner".

--- End quote ---
I seem to remember that in the UK it is strictly only PhDs who are allowed to call themselves Doctor, however common it may be for medical people to call themselves that.
kaz911:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 27, 2017, 08:47:36 am ---
--- Quote from: kaz911 on April 27, 2017, 07:04:12 am ---I would prefer if organisation licensed engineers - was required to put in their license giver - so "Licensed/Certified Engineer by IEEE" or something like that. Right now the title of engineer is so watered down and differs from country to country.
So don't hog the generic title but show the license agency with the title if you need to.

--- End quote ---

The word "engineer" absolutely should not be protected.
By all means make up your certified stuff like CPEng etc and protect that, and then let market forces (or even laws were required) take care of who's allowed to do what.
But trying to protect the generic word engineer is the dumbest idea in history and will never work.

--- End quote ---

Just to clarify :) I do completely agree that Engineer should not be a protected title. Only Engineer + ORG should be protected IMHO. :)
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