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| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: johansen on December 24, 2023, 02:47:55 am ---i can't even remember a news article mentioning a gasoline or diesel car fire. --- End quote --- Selective memory or lack of reporting. Ford recalled more than 600,000 vehicles globally last year over ICE-unique fire risks. Over 125,000 this year in the US alone. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-more-than-125000-suvs-due-fire-risk-nhtsa-2023-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-nearly-519000-us-vehicles-over-fire-risks-2022-11-24/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-38641489 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46180703 Oh wait sorry no, I missed the 142,000 Lincolns: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-142000-lincoln-suvs-us-fire-risks-2023-05-31/ But clearly, ICE vehicles just don't catch fire. That's why they recall MILLIONS of them every year to fix them so they don't catch fire. |
| johansen:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on December 24, 2023, 02:56:06 am --- --- Quote from: johansen on December 24, 2023, 02:47:55 am ---i can't even remember a news article mentioning a gasoline or diesel car fire. --- End quote --- Selective memory or lack of reporting. Ford recalled more than 600,000 vehicles globally last year over ICE-unique fire risks. Over 125,000 this year in the US alone. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-more-than-125000-suvs-due-fire-risk-nhtsa-2023-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-nearly-519000-us-vehicles-over-fire-risks-2022-11-24/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-38641489 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46180703 Oh wait sorry no, I missed the 142,000 Lincolns: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-142000-lincoln-suvs-us-fire-risks-2023-05-31/ But clearly, ICE vehicles just don't catch fire. That's why they recall MILLIONS of them every year to fix them so they don't catch fire. --- End quote --- How many battery packs has tesla swapped out to cut the fire risk?. And now many are recalled has no bearing on how many have caught fire.... A times b times c equals x. If x is less than the cost of a recall...we dont do one. |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: johansen on December 24, 2023, 03:00:42 am ---How many battery packs has tesla swapped out to cut the fire risk? --- End quote --- I don't know. Feel free to present a number. --- Quote ---And now many are recalled has no bearing on how many have caught fire.... --- End quote --- How serious the risk is has very much bearing over whether they recall them to fix them. The risk becomes serious when enough of them catch fire to take note of, and I helpfully provided several examples of news articles of ICE vehicles suffering external combustion, seeing as you just can't recall such an article or event occuring. |
| johansen:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on December 24, 2023, 03:03:18 am --- --- Quote from: johansen on December 24, 2023, 03:00:42 am ---How many battery packs has tesla swapped out to cut the fire risk? --- End quote --- I don't know. Feel free to present a number. --- Quote ---And now many are recalled has no bearing on how many have caught fire.... --- End quote --- How serious the risk is has very much bearing over whether they recall them to fix them. The risk becomes serious when enough of them catch fire to take note of, and I helpfully provided several examples of news articles of ICE vehicles suffering external combustion, seeing as you just can't recall such an article or event occuring. --- End quote --- Fire risk in a gas car is usually a couple components, easy to fix, cheap to recall. The entire battery pack?...lol |
| johansen:
https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-research/fire-statistical-reports/vehicle-fires?l=0 Using that data as a baseline, there have neen 302 deaths per year due to small vehicle fires. https://www.tesla-fire.com/ 80 confirmed deaths, 218 fires. You can run the numbers to adjust for the far, far fewer number of Teslas in existence compared to all other vehicles. |
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