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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
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james_s:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 04, 2020, 06:29:22 pm ---The truly sad thing here is that all this crap is creating divisions where there used to be none.

Do you know anyone who is against fairness – that everyone should have the same opportunities?
Other than intersectional feminists and those pushing group politics (with the idea that "positive discrimination is not really discrimination"), I don't.

We all want to make the world a better place, but these anti-rationalists are fucking it all up: we're seriously sliding back towards tribalism and class-based society.

I know quite a few people who would love to physically damage or possibly even kill me for my opinions, but all I want is for these people is for them to realize what their actions and demands lead to – nowhere good – so we can actually do what is necessary to make this world a better place, together.

(Right now, I don't see any way to avoid this ideology: all efforts to do better will be fucked up sooner or later by these ideological automatons. They're even "sanitizing" and "fixing terminology" in the Linux kernel!)

So why the fuck are we, people like Dave, or myself (completely different, but both just wanting to help others, although not always successfully on my part), having to continuously defend ourselves, when aggressive violent authoritarians demands are taken at imagined face value, and the factual and measurable damage they are doing utterly ignored?

This is a frigging clown world.

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The internet has done as promised and given a voice to marginalized groups. Unfortunately nut jobs, conspiracy theorists, hate groups, racists, anti-vaxxers, and numerous other extremists and fringes are included in those marginalized groups.
Simon:
Yes, this is what i keep saying to people. Anyone no matter how whacho can put stuff online and if they are determined enough make a good enough looking site that people will believe you can't stop them.
DimitriP:

--- Quote ---The truly sad thing here is that all this crap is creating divisions where there used to be none.
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It's not so much about dividing as it is about getting "similar minded individuals" to come closer, get glued together with a stronger bond than before.

Think of a magnetized rod.
If all you have is a bunch of aluminum shavings neither pole gets any joy. Neither one can attact any of these aluminum particles.
Figure out a way to convert them to something like iron especially when they are in the vicinity of your favorite pole , they'll stick to it never leave. It will take a pretty large force to free them up and get attracted by the other pole.
So you have to divide and bias the groups.
...and it's working...
nuno:
Holy shit! Time to fork Android too?


--- Quote from: nuclearcat on July 04, 2020, 05:43:33 pm ---Now BlackHat turn.
https://twitter.com/DaveKSecure/status/1279194355585085440
and this guy works at Google...

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madires:

--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on July 04, 2020, 06:28:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: nuclearcat on July 04, 2020, 05:43:33 pm ---Now BlackHat turn.
https://twitter.com/DaveKSecure/status/1279194355585085440
and this guy works at Google...

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BlackHat: I wonder what kind of dumb it takes to confuse a hat with a person?

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I have no idea! Since they also want to ban the terms blacklist and whitelist I'd assume they are going after white hats and grey hats too. Again, they aren't understanding their own native language, i.e. words can have multiple meanings based on the context. Another sad thing is that they ignore the origin of words. The 'black' in blacklist and black hat comes from black being the darkest color symbolizing night and bad things. Remember the superstition of seeing a black cat? That meaning of black goes back to the early days, long before black slaves were imported into America. Does banning specific words fix racism? No, it doesn't because words aren't racist but some humans are.
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