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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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maginnovision:
For crime, as an example, they usually show a sketch or a picture as well as describing the person. Black male, white male, hispanic male, facial hair, height, weight, eye color, hair color, distinguishing marks etc... If someone is wanted for questioning it really is a matter of being as descriptive as possible otherwise you're going to get a lot of useless info or absolutely none because nobody could be sure. In typical conversation it's the same, if you want to give someone a sense of the person to whom you're referring you don't just say my friend some guy. Especially when more description helps the story... I won't give any real examples of this because I'm sure someone would be offended. If you think mentioning details like race breeds racism then I don't know what to tell you. Every race commits crime so you're either going to be against every race or you're just going to consider it one of many details of the incident.

Kjelt:
Yes but I was talking about the media and the people watching or reading the media are not people who are going to look for a perputrator and even when they do it has not much added value of narrowing the fitting group of people from 16 million to 0,8 million, still a needle in an haystack.
And if they do they should do it for everyone, they never say white native dutch person, then it is not mentioned.

Tv shows that ask the audience to look out for somene and show their picture or drawing is indeed another case where it is usefull to provide as much information.

wilfred:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 04, 2020, 06:29:22 pm ---The truly sad thing here is that all this crap is creating divisions where there used to be none.

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I remarked earlier on the renaming (in Australia) of a lolly (candy) called a Redskin. Perhaps I thought it fairly innocent because to me it was just a red lolly I would ask for as part of a bag of mixed lollies at the corner shop way back when I was a kid.

But today I found this as part of an editorial in a newspaper written in a newspaper in South Dakota in 1890. It shows that the term Redskin is more weighty than just a name a child uses to buy 10cent of lollies.

"The proud spirit of the original owners of these vast prairies inherited through centuries of fierce and bloody wars for their possession, lingered last in the bosom of Sitting Bull. With his fall the nobility of the Redskin is extinguished, and what few are left are a pack of whining curs who lick the hand that smites them. The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians. Why not annihilation? Their glory has fled, their spirit broken, their manhood effaced; better that they die than live the miserable wretches that they are."

So the divisions are not always recent inventions.

I saw it here https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/10/27/130862391/l-frank-baum-advocated-extermination-of-native-americans

GeorgeOfTheJungle:

--- Quote from: wilfred on July 06, 2020, 07:29:44 am ---[...] The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.[..]

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Except that the indians were first class citizens in the rest of the (hispanic) American continent, and had been so since the beginning.

Whoever wrote that had no idea?

nuclearcat:
And hi again https://www.zdnet.com/article/mysql-drops-master-slave-and-blacklist-whitelist-terminology/

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