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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 07, 2020, 01:10:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 07, 2020, 12:28:26 am --- ... You see, Finnish police and Finnish media decided a few years ago to do just that. ...
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What's really wrong with the principle "everyone is equal before the law", there should be no rules making any group different... that is in itself racist and/or unfair to one group or another, in most instances.
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Well, the Finnish Constitution does explicitly say that, that everyone is equal before the law, but the new Woke police interpret the laws using the Marxist-intersectionalist ideology; for example, here in the official Finnish Police blog, they say that in the case of majority population being the target of racism ("incitement against a group of people"), "the threat, slander or insult should be exceptionally serious, as the majority population does not need as strong protection as minority groups." Simply put, it is not racist to attack me just because of my skin color, because it is white.
We Finns cannot even dispute this, because we do not have a constitutional court (that could examine if laws, policies, or governmental guidelines are in violation of the constitution).
The Helsinki Police are also tasked with hate speech monitoring on the net: they have several dozen officers just for that job. However, the same police do not have the resources to investigate storage break-ins or random violence (between strangers). That's what this kind of "don't talk about things that might help racists" approach led to, here.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 07, 2020, 02:44:26 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 07, 2020, 01:10:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 07, 2020, 12:28:26 am --- ... You see, Finnish police and Finnish media decided a few years ago to do just that. ...
--- End quote ---
What's really wrong with the principle "everyone is equal before the law", there should be no rules making any group different... that is in itself racist and/or unfair to one group or another, in most instances.
--- End quote ---
Well, the Finnish Constitution does explicitly say that, that everyone is equal before the law, but the new Woke police interpret the laws using the Marxist-intersectionalist ideology; for example, here in the official Finnish Police blog, they say that in the case of majority population being the target of racism ("incitement against a group of people"), "the threat, slander or insult should be exceptionally serious, as the majority population does not need as strong protection as minority groups." Simply put, it is not racist to attack me just because of my skin color, because it is white.
We Finns cannot even dispute this, because we do not have a constitutional court (that could examine if laws, policies, or governmental guidelines are in violation of the constitution).
The Helsinki Police are also tasked with hate speech monitoring on the net: they have several dozen officers just for that job. However, the same police do not have the resources to investigate storage break-ins or random violence (between strangers). That's what this kind of "don't talk about things that might help racists" approach led to, here.
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If there is no separate constitutional court, presumably the "regular" high courts can make constitutional interpretations?
nuclearcat:
--- Quote from: TimFox on July 06, 2020, 09:38:48 pm ---When I first learned of "black holes" in astrophysics, the professor mentioned that the Russian phrase translated to "frozen stars", since the literal translation from English to Russian was obscene. Language is tricky.
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Thats weird, because black hole is literally black hole in Russian. Nothing obscene ever existed.
* Russian is my native language
Fred Basset:
A lot of this is not really real you know?
I mean it is real in that it is being reported, and some organizations are indeed actually trying to change the langueage used. But some of these "cases" have been around since the 80s in Britain, where "jokers" reported them as being offensive as a way of trying to ridicule those who were trying hard not to offend others. Only the gullible believed them, and lo and behold - Nothing ever came of them and the real world carried on using most of the old language.
Now with BLM, it is a field day (for some) in ressurecting these old things again and pretending they are real issues for non-whites/non-male or whatever dreamed up maginalization they think they can get away with. Only now people seem to have forgotten most of these were tasteless pranks, and some are now being taken seriously. I have several friends from different countries and words do not bother them much. They are far more concerned about the violence (from anyone), institutionalised racism and Covid-19. These were wind-ups to see who would take them seriously and regretably they still seem to have the power to get people on both sides worked up. Lots of fire and little light.
Don't sweat the words (I don't), it seems like they are the least of my friends worries right now.
Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 07, 2020, 03:17:27 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 07, 2020, 02:44:26 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 07, 2020, 01:10:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 07, 2020, 12:28:26 am --- ... You see, Finnish police and Finnish media decided a few years ago to do just that. ...
--- End quote ---
What's really wrong with the principle "everyone is equal before the law", there should be no rules making any group different... that is in itself racist and/or unfair to one group or another, in most instances.
--- End quote ---
Well, the Finnish Constitution does explicitly say that, that everyone is equal before the law, but the new Woke police interpret the laws using the Marxist-intersectionalist ideology; for example, here in the official Finnish Police blog, they say that in the case of majority population being the target of racism ("incitement against a group of people"), "the threat, slander or insult should be exceptionally serious, as the majority population does not need as strong protection as minority groups." Simply put, it is not racist to attack me just because of my skin color, because it is white.
We Finns cannot even dispute this, because we do not have a constitutional court (that could examine if laws, policies, or governmental guidelines are in violation of the constitution).
The Helsinki Police are also tasked with hate speech monitoring on the net: they have several dozen officers just for that job. However, the same police do not have the resources to investigate storage break-ins or random violence (between strangers). That's what this kind of "don't talk about things that might help racists" approach led to, here.
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If there is no separate constitutional court, presumably the "regular" high courts can make constitutional interpretations?
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Nope.
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