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coppice:

--- Quote from: SkyMaster on July 08, 2020, 02:19:17 am ---
--- Quote from: coppice on July 07, 2020, 04:46:14 pm ---
Why would you expect people to be killed in proportion to their number in a fair society? Some groups have far more interactions with the police. The number of black and white people killed by the police in the US is roughly in line with the number of interactions their group has with the police. The interesting question is why black people have far more interactions with the police in the US.

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To answer your last question, maybe this is the resultant of 250 years of slavery, followed by 100 years of constitutional segregation that only officially ended in the '50s and inequality that continued long after...

These American people had a very difficult life for a long time (350 years), and this could play a part in the rebellious attitude of some individuals.

If I was in their shoes, I would probably have a rebellious attitude.

 :-\

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I wonder if for many Americans a focus on black vs white is a way of diverting their minds from just how gruesome the history of America has been. Just focus on one area of injustice, and ignore all the rest. What about the genecide of indigenous Americans? What about the waves of Chinese tricked into going to the western side of America with the promise of good jobs? What they found were indentured servitude conditions building the railroads, or working in mines in Arizona that would have made the actual slaves think "man, those people REALLY have it tough". What about the workers in northern industrial towns who couldn't be motivated to fight slavery, because they thought the slaves had better conditions than they did? When there was a downturn the factory workers starved on the streets, while a slave owner needed to keep his assets in good shape for the next upturn.
maginnovision:
What do you expect people to do about things that happened in the past exactly? It's in the history books so learn it and understand why you shouldn't do it. Which country doesn't have bad shit in their past, present, or future?
SkyMaster:

--- Quote from: coppice on July 08, 2020, 03:08:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: SkyMaster on July 08, 2020, 02:19:17 am ---
--- Quote from: coppice on July 07, 2020, 04:46:14 pm ---
Why would you expect people to be killed in proportion to their number in a fair society? Some groups have far more interactions with the police. The number of black and white people killed by the police in the US is roughly in line with the number of interactions their group has with the police. The interesting question is why black people have far more interactions with the police in the US.

--- End quote ---

To answer your last question, maybe this is the resultant of 250 years of slavery, followed by 100 years of constitutional segregation that only officially ended in the '50s and inequality that continued long after...

These American people had a very difficult life for a long time (350 years), and this could play a part in the rebellious attitude of some individuals.

If I was in their shoes, I would probably have a rebellious attitude.

 :-\

--- End quote ---
I wonder if for many Americans a focus on black vs white is a way of diverting their minds from just how gruesome the history of America has been. Just focus on one area of injustice, and ignore all the rest. What about the genecide of indigenous Americans? What about the waves of Chinese tricked into going to the western side of America with the promise of good jobs? What they found were indentured servitude conditions building the railroads, or working in mines in Arizona that would have made the actual slaves think "man, those people REALLY have it tough". What about the workers in northern industrial towns who couldn't be motivated to fight slavery, because they though the slaves had better conditions than they did? When there was a downturn the factory workers starved on the streets, while a slave owner needed to keep his assets in good shape for the next upturn.

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It seems that the way you see it, slaves (with no rights, and not considered citizen) were in a better position than "normal" workers.

 :-//
SkyMaster:

--- Quote from: maginnovision on July 08, 2020, 03:16:40 pm ---What do you expect people to do about things that happened in the past exactly? It's in the history books so learn it and understand why you shouldn't do it. Which country doesn't have bad shit in their past, present, or future?

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It is in the history books, but are these 350 years of American history taught at school?

What do I expect people to? I do not expect them to do anything; I am just an observer.

 :)

maginnovision:
They were taught, yes. As of now? I wouldn't know because I'm not a child but with all of the SJW garbage happening if it still is it may not be soon.
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