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| coppice:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 12, 2020, 07:51:30 am --- --- Quote from: coppice on July 11, 2020, 04:43:22 pm --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on July 11, 2020, 03:33:13 pm ---Europeans didn't really start to attempt to classify different races, until they were already enslaving Africans. --- End quote --- When did Europeans actually enslave Africans? We know Europeans have a history of enslaving each other. We know people from the Barbary Coast enslaved a lot of Europeans. Europeans generally bought pre-enslaved Africans and traded and used them. The actual enslavers are still in business enslaving and selling their neighbours today. North America is a real odd man out historically, where the slave owners and slaves were generally easy to tell apart. Even the steady flow of black slaves into North Africa didn't create such a clear skin colour divide. It also didn't leave much of a black population, as it appears they castrated all their male slaves. Nobody cares about race when there's money to be made. --- End quote --- Sorry, I don't see any moral difference between Europeans enslaving others or buying slaves. --- End quote --- Well that totally misses the point of what I was saying. --- Quote from: Zero999 on July 12, 2020, 07:51:30 am ---Yes, slavery still goes on today, but not so much as in the past. Probably because nowadays machines can do many jobs, previously done by slaves, so it's less profitable/risky: machines can't mount a rebellion. --- End quote --- Organisations which track slavery say there are more slaves today than at any point in the past. A lot of this is clearly due to the massive increase in the world's population. The percentage of people in slavery is probably lower now, but the number of higher. Its certainly isn't going away, though. |
| Zero999:
No, I can see your points: slavery is still a problem today and the descendants of the African slave traders who worked with the Europeans are still around today. The difference is it's not got industrialised, like it was before and doesn't seem to be propped up by so many big governments. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 12, 2020, 02:33:20 pm ---No, I can see your points: slavery is still a problem today and the descendants of the African slave traders who worked with the Europeans are still around today. The difference is it's not got industrialised, like it was before and doesn't seem to be propped up by so many big governments. --- End quote --- Oh, I see, It has the merits of a rustic cottage industry. Very progressive. :) Who are you referring to as the big governments propping up slavery? Sometimes slavery has been the result of conquest, which is definitely government sponsored. However, most slavery seems to have been of the out of sight out of mind type. For example, British slave traders in the North Atlantic were told explicitly that the government couldn't do an awful lot about what its people did outside Britain, but anyone who set foot on British soil was free. |
| Alex Eisenhut:
What about mastering music recordings and master tapes/copies? |
| Red Squirrel:
Personally if I designed a system that needs that type of designation I would purposely call it master/slave just to piss off the SJWs. >:D |
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