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fourfathom:

--- Quote from: pardo-bsso on July 15, 2020, 01:08:57 am ---Has anybody yet made the suggestion to start using rot13-ed English as an universal engineering language?
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For extra security I use double-ROT-13.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 15, 2020, 01:41:46 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 15, 2020, 01:32:08 am ---Nietzsche - the favourite philosopher of the Nazis - maybe not a good example in general!  :D
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ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

Nietzche died in 1900.  He was a philosopher, asking questions, not telling others what to do.  He correctly predicted what the "death of God", people shifting away from religion as the central structure of their lives, would cause.  He is aemong the dozen or so western philosophers in the last two hundred years or so who have had major impact on our societies.

But no, because there have been people who cherry-picked some of his ideas to bolster their own murderous ideology, you claim that Nietzche himself is suspect: guilty by association.

At the same time, actual Marxists walk around killing people, and nobody bats an eye.

I expected a lot more from you, SilverSolder.  That was an idiotic statement I would not have expected from you.

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Note that I didn't say Nietzche was a nazi, I said the Nazis liked Nietzche.

Don't shoot the messenger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_and_reception_of_Friedrich_Nietzsche#Nietzsche_and_fascism

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: nuclearcat on July 14, 2020, 06:31:46 pm ---So crowdsupply decided to engage in conversation.
https://twitter.com/crowd_supply/status/1283102614020734976

--- Quote ---Every decision made, including any decision about technology, is political - it reflects how we want to shape the world, whether we're aware of it or not. The proper way to rename something is to start talking about it, which is exactly what happened here.

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But at the very least, what I want to say is that while names of the signals can be pulled into politics, but most of the decisions in electronics are not related to politics, but have roots in physical professions who do not give a damn about politics.
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Exactly.
People choose to view it through a political lens, and to do so where none existed in the first place. Somehow they think this is righteous. Why?
(I know why, it's a rhetorical question)

Nominal Animal:
Saying Nietzche was in favour of the Nazis (having been already dead for a couple of decades), and therefore you should ignore everything Nietzche said or wrote,
is exactly like banning terms or speech because somebody ostensibly gets offended by the terms by reinterpreting them in a completely different context.

It's the same thing with statues and memorials.  They exist for us to remember.  They are not something we worship; they are there to teach us.  You only tear them down when you want everyone to forget them and the history they represent.

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Nietzches cogitation about human psyche and cultures, if you ignore his work completely, you are doing exactly the same utterly inane thing these crazy leftists are doing by banning terms and speech: lalalalalalala I can't hear you, so you don't exist go away lalalalalala –– instead of actually learning from history and doing better.

If you do that, you're just as horrible as the term-banning twats.

james_s:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 15, 2020, 01:47:49 am ---Note that I didn't say Nietzche was a nazi, I said the Nazis liked Nietzche.

Don't shoot the messenger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_and_reception_of_Friedrich_Nietzsche#Nietzsche_and_fascism

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That's an excellent example of something someone mentioned earlier. Far too often "Person A knew/liked/quoted person B" becomes "person B had the same ideologies as or supported person A". It's like the whole world has collectively lost their minds and forgotten how to have a rational conversation.

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