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pepelevamp:

--- Quote from: lukego on June 12, 2020, 01:01:34 pm ---I've actually delved into the "General Chat" section today to try and understand why other people have been saying that they don't feel comfortable in the EEVblog community and perceive the community as e.g. hostile to women and minorities. I'm taking them at their word that they are in fact offended by the way people talk here and I'm trying to understand their perspective.

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me too actually. reminded me to come back & check on my posts. i am super conscious though about the tendancy for those who mean well to self-cull their own communities until there is nobody left. its very easy to swing the hammer at those who are 90% on your own side. there's no nazis here. i find those who dont intrinsically think-in-horrible-ways (well-meaning people) tend to not really know where to find the horrible people. or even identify the real horrible actors in society. they just dont think the same way.

the real horrible people out there (who to fuck with us well-meaning people) enjoy nothing more than watching communities turn in on each other and self-cull. there are real bad actors - and they are out there.

its better to have an army of people who-dont agree-on-everything but have their heart in the right place, rather than try to sanitize your soldiers into nothing.
bd139:

--- Quote from: lukego on June 12, 2020, 01:01:34 pm ---I've actually delved into the "General Chat" section today to try and understand why other people have been saying that they don't feel comfortable in the EEVblog community and perceive the community as e.g. hostile to women and minorities. I'm taking them at their word that they are in fact offended by the way people talk here and I'm trying to understand their perspective.

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Source?

I think the minorities that the forum is possibly hostile to is trolls, drunks and morons. And none of those are racial or gender identities.
lukego:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 12, 2020, 01:06:50 pm ---Which "other people" "don't feel comfortable in the EEVblog community"?

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I'm not sure how to respond to that. Are you literally asking me to name people who have told me that they don't feel comfortable in this community? Or are you implying that there are no such people and I am spinning a yarn because I have an axe to grind (if you'll excuse a mixed metaphor)?
bd139:
I think tggzzz is asking for something other than a faith argument. I certainly would.

The sky is green today here. Oh what you expect me to take a photo? I can't do that.

I was a mod on a considerably larger forum for a number of years. I've seen this exact thread diversion at least 15 times before.
coppice:

--- Quote from: pepelevamp on June 12, 2020, 01:11:15 pm ---the real horrible people out there (who to fuck with us well-meaning people) enjoy nothing more than watching communities turn in on each other and self-cull. there are real bad actors - and they are out there.

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The real bad actors ARE the ones tearing things apart from within. Anything you try to do online attracts a bunch of holier than thou parasites, who will tear things apart if you don't take a hard line with them. If you are doing something deeply technical you are usually free of this kind of thing for a while, but the moment discussions turn to something less niche the parasites descend to destroy things.
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