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| bd139:
Wait until they find out about Penistone. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: JPortici on July 19, 2020, 08:56:44 am --- --- Quote from: james_s on July 19, 2020, 02:51:08 am ---At least the "N-word" has no other meaning that I'm aware of, it's relatively unique in that regard, not like it's been used for decades to describe something else that has nothing at all to do with racism the way master, slave and others. I'm much more supportive of voluntarily retiring a word that has no other use other than as a highly offensive slur. As long as people continue to use it, it will remain in circulation but it's easy enough to not use it myself. --- End quote --- it is litterally a surname here (Negro / dal Negro <- very known local card manufacturer), there are also other "funny" surnames such as a colloquial term for semen but they are all slowly fading away It's also in the name of some mountains here in the dolomites (Cima Negra / Croda Negra but that must be because the rock is darker, certainly not because they wanted to denigrate african americans. Gladly no propositions of changing mountain names so far, although they did change the name of a few huts like the Negerhütte - because the walls were painted black -) --- End quote --- The word nigger wasn't racial slur when it first emerged. It just meant person with dark skin. As I've said before (I can't remember whether it was in this thread or another one) the word nigger is comes from Negro, which is Spanish for black. Obviously, its most common use today is as a racial slur. This probably happened because people stared to use it to refer to people with dark skin in a dehumanising manner, so it makes sense to avoid using it. This is completely different to whining about words such as master/slave, in contexts when they're used to refer to inanimate objects, not people. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 19, 2020, 01:27:34 pm ---Wait until they find out about Penistone. --- End quote --- Gateway to the Peak District. |
| Simon:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 19, 2020, 01:58:55 pm --- --- Quote from: JPortici on July 19, 2020, 08:56:44 am --- --- Quote from: james_s on July 19, 2020, 02:51:08 am ---At least the "N-word" has no other meaning that I'm aware of, it's relatively unique in that regard, not like it's been used for decades to describe something else that has nothing at all to do with racism the way master, slave and others. I'm much more supportive of voluntarily retiring a word that has no other use other than as a highly offensive slur. As long as people continue to use it, it will remain in circulation but it's easy enough to not use it myself. --- End quote --- it is litterally a surname here (Negro / dal Negro <- very known local card manufacturer), there are also other "funny" surnames such as a colloquial term for semen but they are all slowly fading away It's also in the name of some mountains here in the dolomites (Cima Negra / Croda Negra but that must be because the rock is darker, certainly not because they wanted to denigrate african americans. Gladly no propositions of changing mountain names so far, although they did change the name of a few huts like the Negerhütte - because the walls were painted black -) --- End quote --- The word nigger wasn't racial slur when it first emerged. It just meant person with dark skin. As I've said before (I can't remember whether it was in this thread or another one) the word nigger is comes from Negro, which is Spanish for black. Obviously, its most common use today is as a racial slur. This probably happened because people stared to use it to refer to people with dark skin in a dehumanising manner, so it makes sense to avoid using it. This is completely different to whining about words such as master/slave, in contexts when they're used to refer to inanimate objects, not people. --- End quote --- It's the same as changing retard to special, so now we use special as an insult instead. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Simon on July 19, 2020, 04:11:41 pm ---It's the same as changing retard to special, so now we use special as an insult instead. --- End quote --- Yes, but only when we say "special" in a silly voice. :) |
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