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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
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Simon:
He may have omitted a not in the sentence: *not "going to conform", it would make more sense with "I expect there will be zero people dying as a result of it"
PeterZ:
In all the inclusiveness efforts i wonder if they even bothered to check if the new nomenclature perhaps has a very derogatory sexist meaning in other languages than English.
I encourage you to check the new "cipo" with the google translator (Polish->English). Now, the translation is not perfect. In that form, with "o" at the end it means more "You xxxx" than just "xxxx".
So, saying to someone:
"connect cipo to that pin" would in many cases sound/be understood like:
"connect it to that pin, you xxxx"  :palm:
Again google translator is not perfect here, but also hilarious, try to translate this from Polish to English:
"podłącz cipo do tego pinu" - which is just the mentioned "connect cipo to that pin", just as i'd use "connect miso to that pin".

And yes, i know the original pronunciation would sound differently, but in practice people just use the acronyms they saw on the schematic or in the datasheet and speak them out as they sound in native language. Often not even knowing what the acronym stands for. Many awkward moments guaranteed with this one.
Also, since there will always be some jerks trying to be funny by injecting a little sexist joke here&there, such w new word will make a great new for them.

I wonder how these "proposed" changes are perceived in other languages than English? Your local electronics/tech forums? Would be interesting to know.
paulca:
Slightly relevant:
daqq:

--- Quote from: PeterZ on July 21, 2020, 07:39:03 am ---I wonder how these "proposed" changes are perceived in other languages than English? Your local electronics/tech forums? Would be interesting to know.

--- End quote ---
About the same as here - most of my local contacts think that the whole thing is silly at best, some see it as a part of a bad long term agenda or at least as a sign of an extremely fractured society. At best they are indifferent about it, mostly they are some shades of against it.
There are of course a few here as well who view it with great enthusiasm. Most of the time it is the same people who go on a crusade at the slightest hint of people who belong to the majority do something that could be viewed as racist, while staying extremely quiet when minorities do something much worse to the majority.
Chris42:
As a native Polish speaker I can confirm that "connect cipo to that pin" does indeed mean "connect it to that pin, you xxxx".
It's absolutely hilarous   :palm:

Why change this notation?
Connecting modules was so simple.
MOSI <-> MOSI
MISO <-> MISO
SCK <-> SCK
SS <-> SS

Now I have to remember that in COPI/C*** notation I have to go
COPI <-> COPI
C*** <-> C***

and in DI/DO notation I have to go
DI<->DO
DO<->DI

How many times I forgot about this with UART and connected RX<->RX, TX<->TX whey I was working with arduino/RPI late at night?

Also since they are TWO notations now I have to also remember that:
COPI <-> DI
C*** <->DO

Also now there will be a mess with "legacy" notations so I will also have to remember that:
MOSI <->DO
MISO <-> DI

or:
MOSI <-> C***
MISO <-> COPI

This is insane!
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