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SilverSolder:
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--- Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2020, 12:57:36 pm ---It's a question of where you stand, if your on the extreme left you just call everyone right wing because we have lost a sense of diversity and nuance. People on the one hand think I am left wing when I defends peoples rights and right wing when I want to see accountability in the general population and law enforcement. I am neither but it's all gone black/white these days - oops who did I just offend there......
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I always thought about doing a video going through that political compass test. It wouldn't have battered an eyelid 5 years ago, but now people are so hyper sensitive the response would either be rabid outrage, or shear disbelief that I'm not *insert -ist term here*.
The hyper sensitive rabid outrage would be multiplied by several orders of magnitude if posted on twitter. And that's not an exaggeration. And I have always considered myself quite far left, until the Overton window shifted so far left it fell off a communist cliff. I'm still standing where I always have, but I need binoculars to see the new age crazy town.
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Another thing that has changed is the meaning of the word "Conservative". Remember when "Conservative" used to mean staid, boring, don't change anything... the old, true, and tested ways of doing things are the best, etc.?
I don't know what the word "Conservative" means today, but it no longer covers the idea of preserving the best of what we have and building on it.
themadhippy:
--- Quote ---I don't know what the word "Conservative" means today
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lying through your teeth,lining your pockets with no regard for others and passing the blame onto some else seems to be the uk meaning
daqq:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 21, 2020, 03:21:35 pm ---I don't know what the word "Conservative" means today, but it no longer covers the idea of preserving the best of what we have and building on it.
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Same for 'democrat'. The whole discussion, when done in English, tends to gravitate towards using Conservative and Democrat as a sort of binary indicator, somehow forgetting that political/moral/value orientation is a multidimensional space rather than a 1 dimensional line.
I honestly don't understand how the US voter can work when they basically have no shades of grey and only two parties that can realistically get into office, allowing you to either go full democrat or full republican, nothing in between.
While the politics in Slovakia are a mess, I appreciate that we currently have over 60 active political parties, 25 of which tried their luck in the last elections. We have 6 political parties that got over 5*% and therefore got into parliament.
Thanks to the plurality we have almost everything, ranging from libertarians, conservatives, agrarian parties, various shades of socialists, even nazis and communists and whatever the fck a few fringe cases were. While this system is not perfect, it does reflect the will of the people more accurately than a binary system where I could either hate my self or hate my self a little less.
The way I voted, I'm actually fairly happy with my vote. In the US I would have been extremely torn between two parties.
* - technically one coalition gained 6.97%, but being a coalition of two parties they needed 7%, so bummer for them.
Simon:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2020, 02:32:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2020, 12:57:36 pm ---It's a question of where you stand, if your on the extreme left you just call everyone right wing because we have lost a sense of diversity and nuance. People on the one hand think I am left wing when I defends peoples rights and right wing when I want to see accountability in the general population and law enforcement. I am neither but it's all gone black/white these days - oops who did I just offend there......
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I always thought about doing a video going through that political compass test. It wouldn't have battered an eyelid 5 years ago, but now people are so hyper sensitive the response would either be rabid outrage, or shear disbelief that I'm not *insert -ist term here*.
The hyper sensitive rabid outrage would be multiplied by several orders of magnitude if posted on twitter. And that's not an exaggeration. And I have always considered myself quite far left, until the Overton window shifted so far left it fell off a communist cliff. I'm still standing where I always have, but I need binoculars to see the new age crazy town.
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A work colleague got me to do a questionnaire that I think was on the Guardian website. He was amazed when I scored just left of the middle, it was some 4 quadrant thing with different figures of political past for each. He was not amazed actually, he was scared as I scored about the same place as him and he always thought i was a looney.
MK14:
--- Quote from: daqq on July 21, 2020, 03:41:04 pm ---Slovakia
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Talking of which.
That is where (Slav / Slovakia) the word SLAVE, comes from.
Also, they were (I believe), WHITE.
Ironically, it was actually 'people of colour' or whatever neutral word(s) I should be using. That enslaved them.
Source:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/9chapter1.shtml
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