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james_s:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 21, 2020, 12:42:02 pm ---This is no echo chamber. Others who share your view have posted here. It's just the majority on this forum, including those from countries with mostly non-white populations and I dare say most engineers, dissagree with you.

Stop making unfounded presumptions. Like many others here, I'm no conservative. I agree with gay marriage, equal rights for minorities and that governments should be tough on those who dodge tax. I support strict gun laws, universal healtcare and good education for all.

I'm against the word police, like you. It's not about left vs right, but free vs censorship.

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Likewise I'm no conservative, for most of my life I self identified as a liberal and all things considered I'm still markedly left of center. The fact that I'm not far fringe leftist loony and refuse to yield to the incessant push of fake solutions and the ridiculous euphemism treadmill created by all the useful idiots trying to fix problems by banning words does not make me a conservative. It's only the fact that the far left is making so much noise lately that forces me to go on the defense and pushes me a bit toward the right who are at this moment not attacking me, but I know full well that if they come into power I'll be pushed back the other way.

Bottom line is I'm against authoritarianism, whether from the right or the left. You do you, live your own life as you see fit and leave me alone to live mine.
james_s:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2020, 04:55:01 pm ---This is what I said many pages back. Each word has a specific meaning and master / slave happen to be the precise ones needed to accurately describe the functions. The only way as you say is to actually invent a new word because all the others have their own nuanced meaning. I don't know..... what's the greek or latin for gagged and beaten by SJW's? I'm sure we can pull a poncy term or two out of that to keep them happy.

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But no matter what you call it, it's still going to be a euphemism for master/slave, because the master/slave relationship accurately describes the relationship between inanimate objects under discussion. I have a really difficult time understanding how anyone cannot see this, and what they think will be solved by changing what we call something. I feel like the people who want to do that live in some alternate reality because what they're pushing to do appears to be so utterly irrational and makes absolutely no sense to me.
MK14:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2020, 04:51:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: MK14 on July 21, 2020, 04:34:21 pm ---
E.g. February has so few days in it. Because past Roman emperors 'stole' the days from it, so their own months could get 30/31 days in it.
E.g. August (Augustus Caesar), which actually was originally suppose to be called 'Sextilis' / 6 or 6th.
But that is a story for another day.

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Oh, pray do tell.

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I've forgotten the source, but it might come back.

But, there were suppose to be 10 months (which would be really sensible, mathematically speaking).
Hence Oct = 8th = October
Dec = 10th = December.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September

--- Quote ---September (from Latin septem, "seven") was originally the seventh of ten months in the oldest known Roman calendar, the calendar of Romulus c. 750 BC
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From https://www.dictionary.com/e/s/offensive-words-hiding-plain-sight/#1

hysterical actually comes from the word 'womb'  ???

--- Quote ---hysterical comes from the Greek word for "womb." It was once believed that hysteria was a disorder only suffered by women—and caused by disturbances in the uterus.
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'sold down the river', completely innocent, right ?, right ... ?
No..
Slavery ..

--- Quote ---synonymous with betrayal. But you should avoid using it: it probably originated as an allusion to selling enslaved people and transporting them down the Mississippi River. The phrase is recorded in the 1800s.
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Surely 'fuzzy-wuzzy' is ok, not racist or anything.
Think again..

--- Quote ---Fuzzy-wuzzy was a racist term for Black people (as from Africa, Australia, or Papua New Guinea), stereotyped for their hair texture. The term was used by British soldiers in the 1800s. The offensive term then made its way into a nursery rhyme and a Rudyard Kipling poem.
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'uppity', is ok, surely ?
No.

--- Quote ---Uppity means "haughty" and "snobbish"—putting on airs, being stuck up. But it has a very racist past, used especially to disparage Black people as "not remembering their place as inferior." Given this explicitly racist past, it's wise to put down uppity.
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themadhippy:

--- Quote ---Surely 'fuzzy-wuzzy' is ok, not racist or anything.
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you never watched dads army then
MK14:

--- Quote from: themadhippy on July 21, 2020, 05:19:48 pm ---
--- Quote ---Surely 'fuzzy-wuzzy' is ok, not racist or anything.
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you never watched dads army then

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I did.
Author Lowe's (Captain Mainwaring) treatment of Pike, would probably NOT be considered politically correct, these days.

I meant, the Led is flashing in a 'fuzzy-wuzzy'/intermittent kind of way, sort of expression.
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