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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
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james_s:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 21, 2020, 02:32:52 pm ---The hyper sensitive rabid outrage would be multiplied by several orders of magnitude if posted on twitter. And that's not an exaggeration. And I have always considered myself quite far left, until the Overton window shifted so far left it fell off a communist cliff. I'm still standing where I always have, but I need binoculars to see the new age crazy town.

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That mirrors my thoughts exactly. I'm about as liberal as I've ever been, but I hesitate to call myself "liberal" anymore because it has become associated with what I would tend to call far leftist authoritarianism. It's a really bizarre thing that is going on lately, we have a positive feedback loop going on social media and I see nothing to slow it down. It may just rev higher and higher until it finally flies to pieces.

At any rate I don't particularly care what your personal political views are, I enjoy the videos and the forum and the relative lack of politics is refreshing. It seems like these days politics get thrust into absolutely everything and just saying "look I want to talk about xyz here, not about this or that cause" sparks some kind of outrage because not expressing an opinion on a matter or event is equated to supporting whatever is opposite of that cause. It's like the whole world has gone completely insane and simply disagreeing about something is a capital crime.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: james_s on July 21, 2020, 04:58:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 21, 2020, 12:42:02 pm ---This is no echo chamber. Others who share your view have posted here. It's just the majority on this forum, including those from countries with mostly non-white populations and I dare say most engineers, dissagree with you.

Stop making unfounded presumptions. Like many others here, I'm no conservative. I agree with gay marriage, equal rights for minorities and that governments should be tough on those who dodge tax. I support strict gun laws, universal healtcare and good education for all.

I'm against the word police, like you. It's not about left vs right, but free vs censorship.

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Likewise I'm no conservative, for most of my life I self identified as a liberal and all things considered I'm still markedly left of center. The fact that I'm not far fringe leftist loony and refuse to yield to the incessant push of fake solutions and the ridiculous euphemism treadmill created by all the useful idiots trying to fix problems by banning words does not make me a conservative. It's only the fact that the far left is making so much noise lately that forces me to go on the defense and pushes me a bit toward the right who are at this moment not attacking me, but I know full well that if they come into power I'll be pushed back the other way.

Bottom line is I'm against authoritarianism, whether from the right or the left. You do you, live your own life as you see fit and leave me alone to live mine.

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That is really the other important dimension in the "political quadrature" that we live in:   Right <--> Left,  and  Authoritarian <--> Liberal

A lot of problems that we are having is from people insisting on collapsing a two (or more) dimensional problem onto a single line or even a point...
MK14:

--- Quote from: james_s on July 21, 2020, 05:27:38 pm ---It seems like these days politics get thrust into absolutely everything.

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As much as I like discussing political things. It is so annoying, that the coronavirus, is made so political.
E.g. Politicians saying DON'T wear masks etc.

It is NOT political (as such), and should be treated in a scientific/medical manor.

Putting politics into it (coronavirus ignores politics, obviously), and having demonstrations during a major virus epidemic, are rather/very bad ideas.

Similarly, this Master/Slave renaming stuff, is really politics and political correctness (gone mad), messing around with software sources and things, where it DOESN'T belong.

Software source (and electronics documentation), are NOT political!
Please leave them alone.
In general, no one outside of the software/electronics engineers, usually bothers to read any source code, or electronic systems documentation. Who cares if a technical term can be misunderstood, by someone as being offensive/racist.
tl;dr
It is Political Correctness, taken to silly levels.
What next, THOUGHT POLICE and thought control boxes, fixed directly to our brains ?
Magnificent Bastard:
I have used the "Master/Slave" terminology for decades for protocols, firmware schemas, automobile brake systems, etc.

I will continue to use these terms, and I refuse to bow down to the "Politically Correct" crowd that seeks to destroy freedom of speech worldwide through bastardization of the language.

Oh and BTW-- I am neither a racist nor do I engage in racial prejudice (some people don't know there is a difference).
Simon:
in the system i am developing with a subcontractor we did name ECU's that are RS485 coms slaves as satelite ECU's but this was not out of PC, it was because the extra ECU is an expansion of the main ECU remotely carrying out what we can't do from the master ECU but we still refer to the comms as master/slave. It's all nuanced and without it we would not be able to have an hour long conversation at a time over the phone and come to constructive conclusions about progress and decisions. We even named some devices "simple slaves" because they are not generic ECU's but dedicated controllers to one simple task that are slaves in the comms scheme/protocol. The lefties would have a field day with us but our aim is to properly define things so that in a couple of words we know what we mean and save a whole load of time, and time is money.
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