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PlainName:

--- Quote ---but then the host and his mates launch into an hour-long prepared speech about how Peter Jackson fundamentally misunderstood the books and anybody who likes the films is provably a philistine.
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It only appears that way to those stuck in the same corner forced to listen. The rest of the room are carrying on their various discussions, rants, crying, etc., and don't realise this little corner it an ongoing LotR-fest.

You forget that Dave has literally as well as figuratively restricted discussions of this (and covid19) to single threads. Not interested? There is a whole web forum out there you could immerse yourself in and never have to trouble yourself with this stuff again. But you chose instead to hang around stuff you don't like and then whine that no-one else seems to not like it either.
nuclearcat:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 23, 2020, 09:43:41 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 23, 2020, 08:49:45 am ---Can I suggest that we all agree that it's the seemingly invisible, insidious movement that instigated the M/S discussion in the first place is the thing that should receive all our collective venom?


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In that case it would go horribly political fast and get very nasty.

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I think we just need to be more consistent, and often it's enough to stay away from those, who drag our subject of interest, hobby, profession to politics. Soft-cancel them, until they become more reasonable.
I can accept fighting with company with idiotic documentation or SDK, but dealing with lunatics, who make political decisions on signal naming? They lost competence in my eyes.
And if it is safe to say so to them, for me, project, employer - i will do it, and each person need to do it. If not very safe, but still i feel urge, i will disguise as disagreement on technical points, and just oppose it in professional way, as often "newspeak replacements" are much worse ones, creates compatibility issues and etc.
So they will think before making one more idiotic decision and embarrassing themselves.
lukego:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 23, 2020, 10:39:17 am ---It only appears that way to those stuck in the same corner forced to listen. The rest of the room are carrying on their various discussions, rants, crying, etc., and don't realise this little corner it an ongoing LotR-fest.

You forget that Dave has literally as well as figuratively restricted discussions of this (and covid19) to single threads. Not interested? There is a whole web forum out there you could immerse yourself in and never have to trouble yourself with this stuff again. But you chose instead to hang around stuff you don't like and then whine that no-one else seems to not like it either.

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That's a fair point and a fair criticism  :-+
MK14:

--- Quote from: langwadt on July 23, 2020, 12:09:16 am ---thing have changed from end racism to; every system, social norm, value, method ever used by a white person is racist by  association and must all be destroyed

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This Master/Slave naming thing, should be approached by discussion, and mutual agreement.

Not by someone on social media (or somewhere), claiming it is offending minorities, with no proof.

Even if it is offending someone. The thing is, they are MISUNDERSTANDING the term. So it is the person taking offence who is wrong. They need to realise and educate themselves, that words can have different contexts and meanings.

tl;dr
It is NOT for one person (or small group of people, who have created their own ideas, on what racism/inclusive, really means) to decide this, via social media, or similar. (Not saying sjw, as some people take offence at it).

We as a set of people (Nation, area, Country, World etc), should decide, on its merits.
coppice:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 23, 2020, 09:43:41 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 23, 2020, 08:49:45 am ---Can I suggest that we all agree that it's the seemingly invisible, insidious movement that instigated the M/S discussion in the first place is the thing that should receive all our collective venom?

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In that case it would go horribly political fast and get very nasty.

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