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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on July 24, 2020, 02:02:22 pm ---Red Bull CEO Dietrich Mateschitz firing executives in his own company because they were desperately trying to shill Black Lives Matter and diversity schemes. Goodbye!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8530435/PICTURED-Racist-map-world-Red-Bull-exec-showed-illustrate-global-corporation.html
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I don't know whether they should have been fired or not, but geeze it's nice to see a big company CEO standing up for not being pressured into making a statement about politics. :-+
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 24, 2020, 05:58:09 pm ---Blessed are the Cheese makers.
After watching multiple failed attempts through the decades, they finally decided that a brand name (and someone's family name!) of cheese in a bridge too far. And a country town with the same word in it is up for review.
Madness.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/coon-cheese-to-be-retired-after-21-year-fight-to-change-its-name-20200724-p55f71.html
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Oh FFS. I thought they had already come out and and publicly said they wouldn't change it?
Finally bowed to the pressure of a serial complainers. Sad.
langwadt:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on July 25, 2020, 12:37:37 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 24, 2020, 05:58:09 pm ---Blessed are the Cheese makers.
After watching multiple failed attempts through the decades, they finally decided that a brand name (and someone's family name!) of cheese in a bridge too far. And a country town with the same word in it is up for review.
Madness.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/coon-cheese-to-be-retired-after-21-year-fight-to-change-its-name-20200724-p55f71.html
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Oh FFS. I thought they had already come out and and publicly said they wouldn't change it?
Finally bowed to the pressure of a serial complainers. Sad.
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here the current big diskussion an icecream that for more than 100 years have had the name Eskimo and a tool company called Eskimo also more than 100 years old
atleast some of even the most sjw type political commentators, have said that those who think changing a name is going to make a difference
are just as silly as those that think changing the name is big violation of free speech
nuclearcat:
--- Quote from: MK14 on July 24, 2020, 02:55:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: nuclearcat on July 24, 2020, 02:50:48 pm ---VMware to stop describing hardware as ‘male’ and ‘female’ in new terminology guide
https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/23/vmware_offensive_terminology_style_guide/
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Already linked to here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/master-and-slave-tech-terms-face-scrutiny-amid-anti-racism-efforts/msg3151898/#msg3151898
Don't worry, there were lots of distractions, in between, your post, and the other one.
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Oh, sorry for repeat.
Just got exceptionally frustrated, friend shared this article, because we had incident with them, they acted like they dont have enough tech manpower to solve real problems and write proper documentation, and then they go into politics, like they have nothing else to do.
And thats not only them. Google, who quickly jumped to same train changing words, they have issue pending many month, affecting lot of software, and they dont bother to work on it.
https://github.com/golang/go/issues/35407
No discussion, no proposal, just hanging in backlog.
Ofcourse, this (already mentioned) seems considered as more important:
https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/236857/
If you read comments, insanity level just reaching sky, i dont know even if they are trolling or serious.
Strongly remind a child who have a difficult homework, but he will do anything else, silly as possible, just not this homework.
MK14:
--- Quote from: nuclearcat on July 25, 2020, 01:13:46 am ---Oh, sorry for repeat.
Just got exceptionally frustrated, friend shared this article, because we had incident with them, they acted like they dont have enough tech manpower to solve real problems and write proper documentation, and then they go into politics, like they have nothing else to do.
And thats not only them. Google, who quickly jumped to same train changing words, they have issue pending many month, affecting lot of software, and they dont bother to work on it.
https://github.com/golang/go/issues/35407
No discussion, no proposal, just hanging in backlog.
Ofcourse, this (already mentioned) seems considered as more important:
https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/236857/
If you read comments, insanity level just reaching sky, i dont know even if they are trolling or serious.
Strongly remind a child who have a difficult homework, but he will do anything else, silly as possible, just not this homework.
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This threads a rather unwieldy 60+ pages of posts already, so easy to miss posts. I don't think I've read, even half of it, as I was somewhat late to the party (thread).
A few years ago (actually, approaching 10 years ago), I think google, created a new search engine (and stuff), made publicly available. Which (similar to the discussion), somewhat silently disallowed, a huge list of, what they considered problematic words.
Especially swear words, but even tiny/slight swear words, e.g, wtf (which DOESN'T need to translate to any swear words, anyway).
Long story long, I bet you have never heard of that project, and nowadays, it comes up with error 404, page not found, as google abandoned it.
Google doesn't seem to easily let me even find references to it now, I'm not sure if that is on purpose or not.
Here is (reportedly), the list of banned words, it used:
https://www.freewebheaders.com/full-list-of-bad-words-banned-by-google/
Here is a link to a reference about it:
https://searchengineland.com/google-launches-search-box-to-find-google-services-at-wdyl-com-83417
Better link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WDYL_(search_engine)
Relevant to this thread:
--- Quote ---The search is censored with search words deemed inappropriate by Google resulting in the user being redirected to the WDYL page for kittens with an image of a rainbow in the background. The service is now inactive, with the URL resulting in a 404 response.
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