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| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 27, 2020, 09:43:23 pm --- If I were a rich man (as the song goes), I would put together a team of smart, aggressive lawyers to go after media BS with various defamation lawsuits, to the point where it would get truly painful for the media moguls involved. (Yes, I know, this is basically taking over what ought to be a government function of some kind. But as government is no longer functional...) --- End quote --- Fa la la. This is actually what is already happening. You'd only be fighting with other rich bastards. |
| magic:
--- Quote from: james_s on July 27, 2020, 09:57:54 pm ---it really would be nice if there was a reputable news outlet that would really strive to just present the dry facts and not try to spin it one way or the other --- End quote --- Live in a conflicted country, win conflicted prizes. It looks like most people don't watch news for information but to convince themselves they are the good guys and for ideological ammunition. Daily reminder that EEVblog audience doesn't constitute majority of people ;) --- Quote from: james_s on July 27, 2020, 09:57:54 pm ---conservatives liberals --- End quote --- ::) |
| bd139:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on July 27, 2020, 10:03:47 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 27, 2020, 09:43:23 pm --- If I were a rich man (as the song goes), I would put together a team of smart, aggressive lawyers to go after media BS with various defamation lawsuits, to the point where it would get truly painful for the media moguls involved. (Yes, I know, this is basically taking over what ought to be a government function of some kind. But as government is no longer functional...) --- End quote --- Fa la la. This is actually what is already happening. You'd only be fighting with other rich bastards. --- End quote --- We have something sensible here in the U.K. https://fullfact.org/ This is my favourite one so far: https://fullfact.org/online/5g-coronavirus-20-note/ |
| magic:
--- Quote from: paulca on July 27, 2020, 01:34:42 pm ---I honestly suggest and hope, for us all, across the globe, that you get rid of that man before he completes his goal to become "King" with full 100% authority over the whole USA, before he refuses to leave office or denies the election as fake news if he is voted out. In case you haven't noticed he has already deployed the troops and is already eroding your democracy in front of your eyes. --- End quote --- Why so much obsession with America? Turn off your TV and CiAPhone and ask yourself why is your life so dependent on a bunch of weirdos across the pond who elected a TV celebrity because he personally fondled supermodels that they mere mortals could only dream about? Do you want the world to be that way? What can be changed? What can be changed without expecting crazies to change? Maybe Orange Cheeto is right that Americans are doing all the hard work while Europe is just leeching off of them, how can a self-respecting European be so dependent on outcomes of American drama? --- Quote from: Zero999 on July 26, 2020, 12:34:57 pm ---The more I learn about human genetics, the more foolish groups which focus on dividing people into different races becomes. There's great genetic diversity in human populations across the world, but the lines between one human race and another are very blurred. It's no secret that most so-called African-Americans are part European, due to the rape of slaves in the colonial era, but many Americans who consider themselves to be of entirely European decent have signifiant DNA from Africa. It's interesting to see how some white Americans react when they found out they're partly black! https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/they-considered-themselves-white-but-dna-tests-told-a-more-complex-story/2018/02/06/16215d1a-e181-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html Let's stop putting people into groups: black, white, Hispanic etc. It would help to combat lots of the problems in our society. --- End quote --- Come on, you are making the same mistake as dr Mengele trying to pin down everything on genetics, while a) it's an elephant in the room that genetics aren't everything b) it's an elephant in the room that nobody really knows jack shit about genetics To elaborate on b) consider that when James Watson was fired for claiming that Africa is doomed because of genetics, they didn't fire him for making "untrue" statements but for making "scientifically unsubstantiated" and "horrible" statements. I hope you see the difference. Yes, you and a few other posters have made statements to the contrary of Watson's, and many journalists and lots of other wishful thinking people, but that's not evidence of anything. To elaborate on a) consider that you can greatly reduce your chances of having your house burglarized, or being mugged or raped in many places in the world, exactly by pigeon-holing people into groups you outlined, or similar. That helps many people combat their problems in their societies, as it happens. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote ---We have something sensible here in the U.K. https://fullfact.org/ --- End quote --- Problem is, what makes that more reputable than any other random website? Take that and, say, MailOnine and why is one beyond reproach whilst the other is, er, not that? AFAICS, you read a few articles and they either confirm or not your view of the site, and if you want one to be truthful then that's what you'll see unless there are clearly things that are made up according to your experience. You might say that one site publishes its sources of info, but in many contemporaneous cases there are no pre-existing sources. Which happens to be where newspapers are located in temporal space. Sure, later (and often much later) some 'investigation' may take place but often these are whitewashes and disputed. And the original piece has long ago hit the fish'n'chips transport scheme. |
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