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| paulca:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 28, 2020, 06:20:16 pm ---My comment was meant in the sense that sexual orientation is a natural consequence of being a mammal - like eye color - so why are we making such a big deal out of it? --- End quote --- They want to make the boxes smaller. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote ---so why are we making such a big deal out of it? --- End quote --- So we get more of a buzz from having a shag than, say, searching for something to eat or having a kip or whatever. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 28, 2020, 07:18:01 pm --- --- Quote ---so why are we making such a big deal out of it? --- End quote --- So we get more of a buzz from having a shag than, say, searching for something to eat or having a kip or whatever. --- End quote --- That's the basics of it. Then, jealousies, ethics, and the rest of it enters into the picture and makes something conceptually simple unbearably complicated! :D |
| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 28, 2020, 06:20:16 pm --- --- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 28, 2020, 04:55:45 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 28, 2020, 04:48:58 pm --- --- Quote from: paulca on July 28, 2020, 01:08:15 pm ---[...] Employer: What is your sexual orientation. Me: None of your god damn business. --- End quote --- Wonder if humans are the only mammals that have such big problems with being mammals? --- End quote --- What's your credit card number and pin code, then? --- End quote --- None of your god damn business! :D My comment was meant in the sense that sexual orientation is a natural consequence of being a mammal - like eye color - so why are we making such a big deal out of it? --- End quote --- I fully agree :D – and my point was that an employer should not need that kind of information for anything (except for some really sensitive jobs where you'd have a background search and so on). There is very little an employer can do with that information that is not actively against the interests of the employee, so employers really have no place asking such stuff. Just like I have absolutely no place asking anyone for their credit card details: I, too, would just misuse the information. (Well, I wouldn't, because long ago I decided I'd rather drop dead than exploit others, but you know what I mean.) To pre-empt the question, "well, how could such innocuous information be used against anyone, then?", my answer is "as a tool for social manipulation". There are a lot of people, especially in middle-managerial roles, who love to find out whatever tidbits they can exploit to squeeze some extra out of their slaves workers. Perhaps you'all have never met those, but I have. A typical scheme is to start rumours, using misunderstandings with a tiny bit of truth in them to pit people against each other, and revel in the chaos they sow. You know, anything from the psycopath/sociopath handbook, really. In my experience, this kind of discord is surprisingly often used as a smokescreen to hide the managers utter lack of ability and skill, and as an inexhaustible source for scapegoats when things go wrong. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 28, 2020, 08:34:33 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 28, 2020, 06:20:16 pm --- --- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 28, 2020, 04:55:45 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 28, 2020, 04:48:58 pm --- --- Quote from: paulca on July 28, 2020, 01:08:15 pm ---[...] Employer: What is your sexual orientation. Me: None of your god damn business. --- End quote --- Wonder if humans are the only mammals that have such big problems with being mammals? --- End quote --- What's your credit card number and pin code, then? --- End quote --- None of your god damn business! :D My comment was meant in the sense that sexual orientation is a natural consequence of being a mammal - like eye color - so why are we making such a big deal out of it? --- End quote --- I fully agree :D – and my point was that an employer should not need that kind of information for anything (except for some really sensitive jobs where you'd have a background search and so on). There is very little an employer can do with that information that is not actively against the interests of the employee, so employers really have no place asking such stuff. Just like I have absolutely no place asking anyone for their credit card details: I, too, would just misuse the information. (Well, I wouldn't, because long ago I decided I'd rather drop dead than exploit others, but you know what I mean.) To pre-empt the question, "well, how could such innocuous information be used against anyone, then?", my answer is "as a tool for social manipulation". There are a lot of people, especially in middle-managerial roles, who love to find out whatever tidbits they can exploit to squeeze some extra out of their slaves workers. Perhaps you'all have never met those, but I have. A typical scheme is to start rumours, using misunderstandings with a tiny bit of truth in them to pit people against each other, and revel in the chaos they sow. You know, anything from the psycopath/sociopath handbook, really. In my experience, this kind of discord is surprisingly often used as a smokescreen to hide the managers utter lack of ability and skill, and as an inexhaustible source for scapegoats when things go wrong. --- End quote --- It is the micro-economic version of what we are seeing at the political level in certain countries at the moment... |
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