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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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james_s:
Part of me wants to go looking for the next layer of words that somebody somewhere could potentially see as offensive in some way and start demanding that all of them be changed to much more ambiguous words in hopes that at some point it all gets so unwieldy and confusing that people start to realize what a fool's errand it all is. Then I realize that it will eventually happen anyway because as Dave has said, it never ends. I can just focus on my regular activities and let the silly fad run its course.

Simon:
the reason black/whitelist is still around is because it's less syllables than allow/denylist, it's 33% faster and the new terms are 50% slower, such a waste of man... I mean personhours, oh hang on that's 3 syllables to 2 as well, what about engineerhours? oh golly that's 4 syllables, we will all have to take a pay cut so that employers can put up with the lower output..... Oh shit now lets rant about low wages....

james_s:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 29, 2020, 05:40:44 pm ---the reason black/whitelist is still around is because it's less syllables than allow/denylist, it's 33% faster and the new terms are 50% slower, such a waste of man... I mean personhours, oh hang on that's 3 syllables to 2 as well, what about engineerhours? oh golly that's 4 syllables, we will all have to take a pay cut so that employers can put up with the lower output..... Oh shit now lets rant about low wages....

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That is exactly the thought I've had on this as well. Words like "spokesman" and "man-hours" are fewer syllables than "spokesperson" or "person-hours" and they just sound less awkward. Nothing says a spokesman or a fireman, etc can't be a woman, "man" is just a generic term used to mean human beings collectively. I've never really grasped the issue, many languages have gendered words for inanimate objects, it's just words, it's not assigning value.

Simon:

--- Quote from: james_s on July 29, 2020, 05:46:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Simon on July 29, 2020, 05:40:44 pm ---the reason black/whitelist is still around is because it's less syllables than allow/denylist, it's 33% faster and the new terms are 50% slower, such a waste of man... I mean personhours, oh hang on that's 3 syllables to 2 as well, what about engineerhours? oh golly that's 4 syllables, we will all have to take a pay cut so that employers can put up with the lower output..... Oh shit now lets rant about low wages....

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That is exactly the thought I've had on this as well. Words like "spokesman" and "man-hours" are fewer syllables than "spokesperson" or "person-hours" and they just sound less awkward. Nothing says a spokesman or a fireman, etc can't be a woman, "man" is just a generic term used to mean human beings collectively. I've never really grasped the issue, many languages have gendered words for inanimate objects, it's just words, it's not assigning value.

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Yep like itlian:

Male: Tavolo = plank
Female: Tavola = table

But it does not end there, plural of male words ends in "i" and plural of female words ends in "e", but sometimes a male singular word ends in "e" like sir: signore which is also the plural of madam: signora, so "signore e signori" is ladies and gentlemen but you know from the contexts which version of the word is used. Drove me up the wall learning it, at first i assumed a man was a a "signoro"

MK14:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on July 29, 2020, 04:52:45 pm ---The next time someone brings crackers to the coffee room, I'll throw up a worldwide shitstorm for making me feel offended.  Fair enough?

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Instead, I'd give you a non-offensive, present. Such as..

Monkey Nuts
Bananas
Tickets to play Crazy Golf
Nuts
Dark Chocolates

Nothing Then

EDIT: OK, I'm feeling sad about not giving you a present or something.
'Coffee Room'. Ok, let me make you a cup of Coffee.

Black or White (Coffee) ?

Ok, forget it, I'm going...

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