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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
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magic:

--- Quote from: bd139 on June 13, 2020, 06:29:30 pm ---fuck HN

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That was fast :-DD :clap:
But you misspelled "H"N :P

To be fair, there are some intelligent people there, or used to be before I quit, but SNR is making it tiresome.


--- Quote from: 0culus on June 13, 2020, 06:38:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 13, 2020, 06:32:41 pm ---If you want a laugh try criticising the “new Microsoft” on there.

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Wait, you mean the new Microsoft isn't our friend and savior???  :-DD

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They worship Microsoft now? Why? :wtf:
bd139:
Because they’re all faddists.

Occasionally I cruise in when I’m bored to drop a troll in.
coppice:

--- Quote from: bd139 on June 13, 2020, 06:57:30 pm ---Because they’re all faddists.

Occasionally I cruise in when I’m bored to drop a troll in.

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The entire software industry is faddish, and has been since the early days. Michael Jackson, Edward Yourdon and others didn't make a fortune from seminars without a serious cult following. They certainly didn't teach anything new or profound for anyone with half a brain and a little experience.
Zero999:

--- Quote from: magic on June 13, 2020, 06:24:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 13, 2020, 03:55:11 pm ---The one thing I don't understand is how the terms "master" and "slave" can ever be deemed to be racist. Anyone who believes they are, is ignorant about history, especially African history.

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This drama has been going on for several years; the typical argument goes along the lines that simply mentioning anything remotely connected to slavery "retraumatizes" the descendants of its victims, distracts them from the work, whatever.

It may possibly be derived from authentic experiences of some oversensitive borderline mental cases. I never followed the "people of color" scene much, but when you dig into similar posting from feminists you will invariably find broken paranoid women scared of every stupid thing some man does that she doesn't understand. In America it isn't popular to tell such people to retract to some calm place and sort their shit. On the contrary, their "speaking up" is revered by the mob as act of bravery for social justice and progress.

Those theories also explain the racial breakdown of American software sector without resorting to the unpopular "we are still racist" or "average IQ" arguments, which is a value of its own for many. You can rest assured that whenever somebody mentions "slavery" or "colonialism", within a few paragraphs back or forth "underrepresentation" will be found. The seemingly popular "it's just status quo which will resolve itself thanks to rights and liberty" theory also is becoming unpopular because Americans have been hearing it for 50 years so something new is desperately needed.

Go lurk news.ycombinator.com if you are in mood for some :popcorn: I suppose they still are having threads about it every other week.

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Racism and sexism are actually quite complex topics. Both do exist in society, but often someone's actions/words are deemed to be sexist or racist, when none was intended. In some cases, it's perfectly understandable why someone would believe another's actions are motivated by bigotry, when in reality none was intended.

Here's an example:

I was waking along the street a few weeks ago and saw a group of black people walking towards me. I looked at them, then across the street and crossed the road, to avoid them. It would be perfectly understandable if they thought I was being raciest, especially as I'm white and was half-expecting a negative comment. In reality I was practising social distancing. I looked them to see if there was enough room to pass on the pavement, but it was too tight, then I looked at the road to check it was safe to cross and it was so I did. I would have done the same, had they been white, but admit I make more effort to socially distance from people of colour, because they're statistically more at risk at developing complications from COVID-19 and there's the small possibility I'm an a/presymptomatic carrier.
DimitriP:

--- Quote ---The only reason why Europeans managed to dominate and pillage Africa was because they were technically advanced at the time.
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Nope. Not the only reason.
Missionaries.

Missionaries, disconnected and divided the locals from their own people and traditions and turned them into more pliable and obedient subjects.

They may have believed they were saving souls, but in reality they were being used knowingly or not, to pave the way for what was about to happen.

And what a fine mess that was!


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