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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
coppice:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 14, 2020, 10:45:43 am ---SJW is someone who helps without being asked to. People don’t like being helped if they haven’t asked. The problem with society is when people ask for help and no one answers. The differences are subtle but important. The worst situation for all is when a cause is formed when someone has already answered by people who are forcing their help on others.
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An SJW is someone who forces help on people, whether they want it or not, and whether they agree with its direction or not. If the sucker doesn't agree, they are subject to abuse from the SJW.
bd139:
That’s fair.
wraper:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 14, 2020, 10:45:43 am ---SJW is someone who helps without being asked to. People don’t like being helped if they haven’t asked. The problem with society is when people ask for help and no one answers. The differences are subtle but important. The worst situation for all is when a cause is formed when someone has already answered by people who are forcing their help on others.
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More like think they are helping in their twisted mind. More often than not they are only making things worse both to whom they are supposedly 'helping' and against whom they do so. In other words the only thing they usually produce is mess and leave it to others to deal with.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: wraper on June 14, 2020, 12:17:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 14, 2020, 10:45:43 am ---SJW is someone who helps without being asked to. People don’t like being helped if they haven’t asked. The problem with society is when people ask for help and no one answers. The differences are subtle but important. The worst situation for all is when a cause is formed when someone has already answered by people who are forcing their help on others.
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More like think they are helping in their twisted mind. More often than not they are only making things worse both to whom they are supposedly 'helping' and against whom they do so. In other words the only thing they usually produce is mess and leave it to others to deal with.
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I agree. There is a fine line between telling someone he/she will never get far because of their looks versus needing to take a step extra to achieve something. On top of that it is always easy to blame something you can't do anything about for your failures. But maybe I'm politically incorrect right now so that is corrected by adding this statement.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 14, 2020, 12:04:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 14, 2020, 09:43:36 am ---People that worry about inanimate objects being referred to as master/slave should consider a very commonplace dehumanisation that is found in most companies.
Companies used to have personel departments that dealt with persons.
Now companies have human resources departments that deal with things to be bought, depreciated, and discarded.
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Human resources is such an honest name. Its very rare to see such honesty in business these days. The name should be dehumanising, as that's what their function is.
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Ah, but which came first? The name change occurred in the mid-80s and was, I get the strong impression that the objective was to allow management to think of the people as disposable, whereas previously they hadn't.
I've worked for two companies with good HR departments that actively helped their employees: CCL and HP. One was in the early 80s, one was famously a "Theory Y" company before that concept had even been invented.
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