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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
coppice:
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--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 14, 2020, 09:43:36 am ---People that worry about inanimate objects being referred to as master/slave should consider a very commonplace dehumanisation that is found in most companies.
Companies used to have personel departments that dealt with persons.
Now companies have human resources departments that deal with things to be bought, depreciated, and discarded.
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Human resources is such an honest name. Its very rare to see such honesty in business these days. The name should be dehumanising, as that's what their function is.
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Ah, but which came first? The name change occurred in the mid-80s and was, I get the strong impression that the objective was to allow management to think of the people as disposable, whereas previously they hadn't.
I've worked for two companies with good HR departments that actively helped their employees: CCL and HP. One was in the early 80s, one was famously a "Theory Y" company before that concept had even been invented.
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Staff have always been treated as a commodity by the management of most companies. I don't think a change of name affects that. My impression, when these departments changed name, was that management really though they were changing to a cool trendy new name, and most employees were simply puzzled that the company was being more honest.
Mechatrommer:
SJW as in Black Lives Matters is fine since there are few uneducated ignorant scumbags got loose into law enforcement task. but SJW as in we need to change tech master/slave term is plain stupid. but then try to change whitelist/blacklist also seems reasonable to me as there is no particular reason why white must be good and black is bad in the first place (sometime white is bad just as sometime black is good).
Simon:
--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on June 14, 2020, 01:08:28 pm ---SJW as in Black Lives Matters is fine since there are few uneducated ignorant scumbags got loose into law enforcement task. but SJW as in we need to change tech master/slave term is plain stupid. but then try to change whitelist/blacklist also seems reasonable to me as there is no particular reason why white must be good and black is bad in the first place (sometime white is bad just as sometime black is good).
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Yes, in accounting you are in the black or in the red.
Jeroen3:
Github and Gitlab gave in. Since apparently you shouldn't name the default branch master anymore.
bd139:
As I think I mentioned elsewhere, we now have to do this in at least 1000 places:
if branch in ['master', 'main'] ...
Fuck whoever came up with this shit. Gitlab and Github now use proprietary forks of Git thus are not git. Comedy gold because one is run by microsoft so embrace EXTEND extinguish with SJW's cheering it on.
Github are fucking cancerous anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#Controversies
Oh and github are entirely 100% unnecessary to use git.
Git mailing list thread: https://public-inbox.org/git/9accf436-4b7a-2de2-de79-e81ec090dfc9@gmail.com/T/#ma9a4da070ddf8ff87729960bb31ce2a8776c73c1
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