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| tooki:
As for the specific issue at hand: I don’t have a strong opinion on it either way. But food for thought: the last slaves in USA died around 80 years ago. Slavery is way, way closer to the present day than we give it credit. It’s no wonder it’s still fresh in the black American psyche. Likely millions of elderly Americans still alive today knew someone who had been enslaved. And the effects of segregation directly affect black Americans right now, today, still. When I was younger, I had much more of a “they need to get over it” attitude. But as I’ve learned more about the modern, post-slavery history of black America, I’ve become far more understanding of the issues they face to this day. I hope you guys become a bit more sensitive to it, too. |
| TimFox:
Close: the last slave (Sylvester Magee) died almost 50 years ago in 1971. His age at death is controversial, since slaves didn't have proper documentation. |
| magic:
--- Quote from: tooki on June 14, 2020, 10:40:07 pm ---Ultimately, though, the important lesson (and one I think a LOT of forum members here need to really take to heart) is that if a minority is telling us they feel oppressed, we need to listen, not dismiss it. We may not agree on how to solve the problem, or whether we have to make a specific change. But it’s callous and arrogant to wholesale dismiss the grievances, as happens here on the forums every single time a progressive social issue is raised. --- End quote --- Pro tip: start with complaining that you feel oppressed by something other than the default name of git branches :P The primary problem of American "progressive social issues" is that whatever reasonable problems might exist, you will never know because they are drowned in a flood of absolute clickbait idiocy. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: TimFox on June 14, 2020, 10:56:00 pm ---Close: the last slave (Sylvester Magee) died almost 50 years ago in 1971. His age at death is controversial, since slaves didn't have proper documentation. --- End quote --- I find that really strange. Slaves were property, and could be traded. How can you trade something for a good price without proper documentation about its origins, ownership, and history? |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: magic on June 14, 2020, 10:57:08 pm ---The primary problem of American "progressive social issues" is that whatever reasonable problems might exist, you will never know because they are drowned in a flood of absolute clickbait idiocy. --- End quote --- Yes, let us remember that the real immediate issue here is a long, clearly documented, history of white American police officers murdering black people with impunity (even being actively protected by the system with a twisted legal interpretation of 'qualified immunity'), not whether the use of 'master' and 'slave' to accurately describe the relationship of a couple of bits of electronics is offensive. There's a bit of a 'plank' and 'splinter' thing going on here if people think that 'master/slave' flip flops is the issue. I know, but can't prove, that the little gits whining about nomenclature and the like are exactly not the kind of people who would actually stand between a black man and a cop's gun and say 'NO!'. |
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