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| wraper:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on June 14, 2020, 11:56:51 pm --- --- Quote from: magic on June 14, 2020, 10:57:08 pm ---The primary problem of American "progressive social issues" is that whatever reasonable problems might exist, you will never know because they are drowned in a flood of absolute clickbait idiocy. --- End quote --- Yes, let us remember that the real immediate issue here is a long, clearly documented, history of white American police officers murdering black people with impunity (even being actively protected by the system with a twisted legal interpretation of 'qualified immunity'). --- End quote --- First of all, total number black people killed by police is smaller than white people killed. As of why number of black people killed per population of the race is higher, it's not surprising considering that 12% of people (black population of US) manage to commit a half of all crimes. BTW a black guy has many times higher chance to be killed by other black guy rather than a white guy or a cop. 94% of black people get killed by black people. Why there are no protests about that? https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/centers/wiener/programs/pcj/files/PoliceandPublicDiscourseBlackonBlackViolence.pdf |
| Mechatrommer:
--- Quote from: TimFox on June 14, 2020, 10:56:00 pm ---Close: the last slave (Sylvester Magee) died almost 50 years ago in 1971. His age at death is controversial, since slaves didn't have proper documentation. --- End quote --- the earliest campaign to liberate slaves i know was first promoted 1500+ years ago by Mohammad, its funny when people didnt take the lesson (including his own kind) and in effect he's the one who got blamed for promoting it :palm: |
| TimFox:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 14, 2020, 11:53:49 pm --- --- Quote from: TimFox on June 14, 2020, 10:56:00 pm ---Close: the last slave (Sylvester Magee) died almost 50 years ago in 1971. His age at death is controversial, since slaves didn't have proper documentation. --- End quote --- I find that really strange. Slaves were property, and could be traded. How can you trade something for a good price without proper documentation about its origins, ownership, and history? --- End quote --- Back then, a slave’s skin color sufficed to sell him. Of course, the last slave to pass would have been a child in 1865. |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: wraper on June 15, 2020, 12:13:23 am --- --- Quote from: Cerebus on June 14, 2020, 11:56:51 pm --- --- Quote from: magic on June 14, 2020, 10:57:08 pm ---The primary problem of American "progressive social issues" is that whatever reasonable problems might exist, you will never know because they are drowned in a flood of absolute clickbait idiocy. --- End quote --- Yes, let us remember that the real immediate issue here is a long, clearly documented, history of white American police officers murdering black people with impunity (even being actively protected by the system with a twisted legal interpretation of 'qualified immunity'). --- End quote --- First of all, total number black people killed by police is smaller than white people killed. As of why number of black people killed per population of the race is higher, it's not surprising considering that 12% of people (black population of US) manage to commit a half of all crimes. BTW a black guy has many times higher chance to be killed by other black guy rather than a white guy or a cop. 94% of black people get killed by black people. Why there are no protests about that? https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/centers/wiener/programs/pcj/files/PoliceandPublicDiscourseBlackonBlackViolence.pdf (Attachment Link) --- End quote --- Nice strawman, where did you get him? |
| james_s:
I have no idea if those numbers are accurate and being associated with Trump doesn't exactly add credibility, however it would be more helpful to post some more accurate numbers instead of just saying those are wrong. Being an engineer I like numbers, data and facts. I'm not good at processing all of the emotional stuff that's flying around right now. That's not to say that ANY racially motivated police shootings are acceptable but there are certainly situations where deadly force is an appropriate response to a threat. Some people are quick to assume all of these are racially motivated which seems unlikely but I can only speculate. There are tens of thousands of police officers in the US and they spend their shifts dealing with society's worst. While I recognize the need for accountability I'm also dismayed at the anti-police sentiment that has been spreading. There are examples of lawless society in various parts of the world where whoever happens to be strongest at the time is in charge and that is not a society I'd want to live in. I don't want us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and frankly I find it rather frightening that it is so politically dangerous these days to come off as the least bit supportive of law enforcement. |
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