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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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bd139:
On connectors we're going to be forced to use GR-874's until a hermaphrodite gets offended  :-DD

John B:
I didn't say that there are only two camps/wings/groups/whatever. I identified characteristics of two distinct groups. There's a difference.

Berni:

--- Quote from: bd139 on June 11, 2020, 09:41:36 am ---On connectors we're going to be forced to use GR-874's until a hermaphrodite gets offended  :-DD

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Oh phew i thought id have to use those APC-7 connectors. My wallet can't afford those.

But yeah my coworker kept referring to them as "hermaphrodite connectors" because he forgot the name for it and having only one gender is the main feature.

nuclearcat:
I'm from Slavic ethnic group(Slavs). Wiktionary says "The spelling of English ``slave``, closer to its original Slavic form, first appears in English in the 1500s. Slavs became slaves around the beginning of the ninth century when the Holy Roman Empire tried to stabilize a German-Slav frontier. ". To be more honest it is one of word roots theories, but most popular one. Obvious that our ethnic group suffered from slavery hundreds of years. I think i have right to talk about slavery, isn't it?
And i, god damn it, dont have anything against using "slav" part in "slave" in tech stuff. This is technical terminology.
Worst part is when a talented techies (but seems complete idiots in rest of real life), begins to solve social problems in "their own way".
If some idiots have nothing more to do than pick such non-existing problems out of their noses, there is tons of problems of real people in the real world (including slavery) they can really help to solve, not imitate that they are "working on social issues problems".

daqq:

--- Quote from: filssavi on June 11, 2020, 08:17:04 am ---We have to understand that different countries and ethnicities have different offensive or generally frowned upon practices, for example in China planting chopsticks upright in rice is very frowned upon (it has to do with how dead people’s are remembered).
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...so, what, before designing literally anything I should check my work against an incredibly VAST (and apparently ever growing) checklist of stuff that could offend someone? That's a great excuse to do nothing, as eventually you will find that anything offends someone in some culture.

I'm honestly not sure what you wanted to say here. Yes, different people are offended by/dislike different things. Boo hoo.


--- Quote from: filssavi on June 11, 2020, 08:17:04 am ---It is the same thing also with code of conducts, I don’t get why people’s are so against them, nobody will object if cose is rejected for technical reasons, however insulting people’s via mail should not be accepted as normal, just as it is not accepted in an In person meeting...
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Most notably, because the problematic codes of conducts do nothing to improve the quality of the product, but are an attempt to grab power in disguise. See: https://hub.packtpub.com/linux-programmers-opposed-to-new-code-of-conduct-threaten-to-pull-code-from-project/
Also, regulating the behavior of adults to the point of treating them as idiot children in a kindergarten is a problem in and of itself as far as I'm concerned.

edit: From the article I have linked:

--- Quote --- The CoC aims to overcome meritocracy, which in many organizations has consistently shown itself to mainly benefit those with privilege, to the exclusion of underrepresented people in technology
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Canceling meritocracy in science and engineering would effectively kill the progress of humanity. Yes, it's sad that someone was able to go to a prestigious school and/or get an education by his social/ethnic/whatever background, but that does not mean that his contribution is more valuable.

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