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| Simon:
--- Quote from: Kjelt on June 15, 2020, 06:58:04 pm ---Can someone explain to me why race independent terms like master and slave should be abandoned? Or is the history limited to a certain era and forgotten that nord african muslim masters held over a million european white christian slaves ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade --- End quote --- Long story short: idiots |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Simon on June 15, 2020, 06:53:33 pm ---Who is Bristol? are the people of Bristol today the ones that were involved in the slave trade? --- End quote --- Some of the organisations are. Start with the Merchant Venturers, who still have a lot of power and influence. I've seen reports, but not paid much attention, to the effect that the MV were against the many proposals for new/additional plaques by Colston's statue. Bristolians like a good riot every decade or so, and the last one was 9 years ago. FFI google "telepathic heights tesco stokes croft". The statue was a good target for letting off steam and reminding politicians that Bristolians exist. |
| dave j:
--- Quote from: Simon on June 15, 2020, 06:53:33 pm ---Who is Bristol? are the people of Bristol today the ones that were involved in the slave trade? --- End quote --- It's quite obvious from the context it's referring to the citizens of the city of Bristol. They might not have been involved in the slave trade but they, at least those that make the decisions about plaques, are the the latest ones to try to hide the city's involvement with it. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Simon on June 15, 2020, 06:18:55 pm ---the statues are irrelevant, take a poll of who the statue is of and i bet virtually no one will be able to tell you the name without looking, then ask them what the person did and even few will know. On the other hand racism is a thing, it is another form of bullying, it just got an "-ism" because it can be identified to be of a particular section of the population. --- End quote --- Many of the statues and place names being argued over right now have been the subject of debate for years. While people are debating they are not erasing the past and fostering its repetition. |
| Simon:
--- Quote from: coppice on June 15, 2020, 07:19:49 pm --- --- Quote from: Simon on June 15, 2020, 06:18:55 pm ---the statues are irrelevant, take a poll of who the statue is of and i bet virtually no one will be able to tell you the name without looking, then ask them what the person did and even few will know. On the other hand racism is a thing, it is another form of bullying, it just got an "-ism" because it can be identified to be of a particular section of the population. --- End quote --- Many of the statues and place names being argued over right now have been the subject of debate for years. While people are debating they are not erasing the past and fostering its repetition. --- End quote --- while people are debating statues they are ignoring the problem, they are becoming the problem, they are consuming the media bandwidth and the actual problem is being ignored. |
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