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nctnico:

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--- Quote from: vodka on June 15, 2020, 08:13:32 pm ---There are many example  of  "soft policy" with the criminals,in example Barcelona.

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I don't speak the language and am not very knowledgeable about the region so it's a bit hard for me to tell what's going on there. I'm wondering though how they would deal with the sort of violent, often armed criminals that are common in the USA. Or the repeat offenders, just a few months ago officials were fretting over what to do with a guy in Seattle who has been arrested >70 times for assaulting people and other crimes, they let him out yet again at one point and it was a matter of days before he attacked some random stranger. I'd love it if we didn't need the police but I've come to realize there are a significant number of people who are just determined to be problematic, they offend over and over and over and I have a hard time feeling sympathetic. I feel like my rights as a law-abiding citizen who minds my own business and doesn't go around harassing/attacking/victimizing my fellow citizens ought to be protected over those of a chronic offender who just refuses to be helped. I simply lack the patience to deal with people who refuse to get with the program no matter how many chances and how much help they are given.

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Over here we put people which keep causing problems into a psychiatric hospital and get treatment until they are safe to release AFTER they have served their time in prison. Until safe to release may be never...
coppice:

--- Quote from: tooki on June 15, 2020, 08:22:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on June 15, 2020, 08:05:05 pm ---The people?

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Yes, as in, not the government.

--- Quote from: coppice on June 15, 2020, 08:05:05 pm ---Just how many people? What percentage of the population are these people?

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Enough people.

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Damned authoritarians always love to claim you have enough support to justify your actions, absent of any solid supporting evidence. Even the largest mob in the street is a small part of the population.

--- Quote from: tooki on June 15, 2020, 08:22:39 pm ---I was responding to your claim that it was like in 1984 where the Party kept doing things to subjugate the people. In that book, the government clearly is not of, for, or by the people.

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You are the type of person Orwell was criticising in 1984, and you don't even seem to recognise it.

SkyMaster:

--- Quote from: tooki on June 15, 2020, 07:59:40 pm ---.... Leave the police for the real criminals.)

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Please define what a real criminal is.

Is a person physically fighting against his arrest and trying to get the police officer weapon, a real criminal yet? How many seconds the police officer has to decide if the person is a real criminal?

If laws obedient citizens obey to the police, are all the other persons real criminals?


I am asking for a friend.

 :)

magic:

--- Quote from: nuclearcat on June 15, 2020, 02:19:04 pm ---As far as i see these "renames" are mainly pushed by those who are descendants of "enslavers nations".
Genius idea, if there is no word, then memory of this events will fade, everyone forgets their ancestors crimes and precise definition, so their dark and unpleasant pages of history are forgotten.
It seems mainly not those who suffered from slavery feel pain, but descendants of those, who commit this crime want to bleach their history.

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Trust me, they aren't rational enough to even think about it that way.
But it could be a useful angle to piss 'em off nevertheless >:D


--- Quote from: Cerebus on June 15, 2020, 05:10:14 pm ---dogs are all one species and there's no biological features or genetic features that allow one to tell breeds of dogs apart, that a particular dog is a particular breed is a subjective human aesthetic judgement

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Except for size, strength, character, and all the morphological differences which create the aforementioned aesthetic judgement :palm:
And guess what, all of that is down to genetics unless you believe that dogs have souls which even many religions don't believe.
How can you even post such a thing?
themadhippy:
How about dominatrix  and gimp instead  of master and slave.
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