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| magic:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 16, 2020, 10:16:34 am ---Remarkably, every single statement there is wrong - there are strong counter-examples to every statement. Quite an achievement! --- End quote --- Unremarkably, no example is provided to back up this claim. --- Quote from: paulca on June 16, 2020, 10:28:52 am ---If you think this is bad for electronics. All us software devs are going to hell. This is not even a slightly contrived bit of code. --- Code: ---void terminateDisabledChildren( Element element ) { while( element.getChildren().hasNext() ) { Element child = element.getChildren().next(); if( child.isDisabled() ) { element.getChildren().remove(child); child.terminate(); child = null; } } --- End code --- --- End quote --- This is just straightforward toxic masculinity and lack of sensitivity at play. It could be a freshman critical gender theory homework assignment to clean it up; here's a random solution: --- Code: ---void unloadDeactivatedSubcomponents( Component component ) { while( component.getSubcomponents().hasNext() ) { Component subcomponent = component.getSubcomponents().next(); if( subcomponent.isDeactivated() ) { component.getSubcomponents().remove(subcomponent); subcomponent.unload(); subcomponent = nothing; } } --- End code --- --- Quote from: daqq on June 16, 2020, 10:54:58 am ---So many pages and I still haven't been given any explanation as to how a word that accurately describes a relationship between two entities, regardless of race, gender, ethnicity or anything, and is used on non-living objects is racist. Oh well. --- End quote --- I gave one. It traumatizes descendants of slavery victims and makes them unable to perform their work, which is as bad as outright discrimination. |
| tom66:
I am unable to tell if @magic is being satirical here or not, when talking about toxic masculinity and code. |
| nuclearcat:
--- Quote from: magic on June 16, 2020, 12:05:46 pm ---I gave one. It traumatizes descendants of slavery victims and makes them unable to perform their work, which is as bad as outright discrimination. --- End quote --- Something tells me that they need assistance of a psychologist/psychotherapist, and not imitatation of help to them, by changing few words and letters. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: tom66 on June 16, 2020, 09:46:42 am ---Someone pointed out something to me the other day. If you compare the career and educational attainments of Irish Travellers to that of the general population, you'll find they are similarly behind in performance to the general BAME groups in the UK. However, Irish Travellers are white. There is no way to tell that someone is of such a background by just looking at their skin colour. So you cannot be racist to these people without having strong knowledge of their background; and it would be nearly impossible to be "unconsciously racist". So do these people suffer institutional racism? Or are we looking at a problem more ingrained in society and community; these people don't have the best start in life, and it reduces their educational and career attainments? And, more importantly, how do we fix this? Society universally benefits when more people are on equal footing. --- End quote --- Well, not racism, but definitely have some structural disadvantages. The poorest of white America is similarly poor to poor black America. Both of these groups suffer at the altar of the War on the Poor that’s actively occurring in USA. I completely agree with you that society benefits from equality of opportunity (not of outcomes!). Alas, tons of Americans think poverty is the result of moral failings, not of shitty luck. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: tom66 on June 16, 2020, 10:52:50 am ---I'd like to see social media peeps complain about slavery when they use an Apple iPhone, whose supply chain almost certainly involves some form of modern slavery, given China's treatment of the Uyghur Muslims. I think modern day slavery is more important than something that happened 100 years ago and therefore the terms master/slave, are just so inconsequential it makes me wonder whether people's priorities are centred on improving the real world or just feeling good about making a change. --- End quote --- At least Apple makes a sincere, concerted effort to eliminate any kind of slavery (as well as child labor and various other abuses, plus environmental friendliness) from its supply chain, which is more than can be said for the vast majority of companies. |
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