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| paulca:
--- Quote from: magic on June 17, 2020, 12:24:43 am ---Besides, it is my honest opinion that software is more repulsive to women than it strictly needs to be, but meh. --- End quote --- Example please. How do you know the original tree navigational concepts were not written by a woman? You do know that software or rather programming was invented by a woman? You do know that most of the early programmers were women? Of course they were not credited properly until recently, but hey. |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: magic on June 17, 2020, 06:22:24 am ---Democratic politicians just follow what the people want and the experts recommend. Regardless of your smug dismissal, there are numerous accredited scientists who say that this newspeak is useful and/or necessary. It was also a big deal on the Internet since the earliest 2010s, before certain career politicians capitalized on it in the last few years. Politicians just listen to the voice of the people, maybe you don't realize what that voice sounds like today. --- End quote --- They follow what the loudest fringe minority wants, not people in general. Twitter is not a voice of usual people. |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 17, 2020, 01:00:53 am --- --- Quote ---A case in point is the "broken windows" doctrine of policing. It didn't work. It was a dismal failure. It made things worse. --- End quote --- Do you have references for that? I ask because the broken windows theory seems sound and, according to Wikipedia, it works. What doesn't work is zealous policing, which isn't necessary for implementing the broken windows policy. It's easy to mistake one for the other, and a valid theory may thus be misrepresented and unfairly made worthless through an internet meme. --- End quote --- See my emphasis above. I was, quite obviously, taking about the policing side of it aka "zero tolerance" policing. I would have thought that was clear both from the "doctrine of policing" at the start of the paragraph and the rest of the context. |
| magic:
--- Quote from: paulca on June 17, 2020, 06:49:08 am --- --- Quote from: magic on June 17, 2020, 12:24:43 am ---Besides, it is my honest opinion that software is more repulsive to women than it strictly needs to be, but meh. --- End quote --- Example please. How do you know the original tree navigational concepts were not written by a woman? You do know that software or rather programming was invented by a woman? You do know that most of the early programmers were women? --- End quote --- I meant the contemporary software industry, not programming as such. And particularly places filled with youngsters. It's highly competitive and ambitious and I don't see that many women desiring to participate in that. On the other hand, I'm not sure if a calmer environment would produce equal pace of development. On yet another, a lot of the development today is chasing flavors of the month or finding more efficient way of ripping somebody off, so meh. Bottom line, I used to think feminists are crazy but I'm finding myself hating more and more things that they complain about, except I understand that "abolishing patriarchy" isn't going to change shit ;) --- Quote from: wraper on June 17, 2020, 07:54:16 am ---They follow what the loudest fringe minority wants, not people in general. Twitter is not a voice of usual people. --- End quote --- You completely ignored the point about scientists and experts and went after the lowest hanging fruit. Yes, that post was tongue in cheek. But guess what, TV and Twitter is where plenty of "usual people" learn what their voice is in the first place. Somebody ends up voting for those goddamn leftists even if you don't, go figure. And it wasn't just Twitter, a lot of that culture leaks to media and everywhere. Internet harassment campaigns on corporations also work wonders. Career politicians will say what they think it takes to get the votes. Clinton used to favor increased border security just a few years before Trump made "the wall" the core point of his campaign. |
| GlennSprigg:
This 'thread/post' is now way too long... It's not that everything said is not relevant/worthy!... It's just that it's like people talking in a loud & noisy room, where 99% of the dialog is missed! :scared: Back to the very first post/question, is 'Master/Slave' racist?? NO!! One may consider oneself a 'slave' to their powerful/demanding BOSS, colloquially, without ANY talk of Race/Colour/Creed !!! We have 'Master/Slave' brake cylinders etc, which depict 'verbally' which ones do the 'work'!! NEVER in 65 years of my life have I even remotely correlated this with 'colour/race' etc!!! >:( Again, I may be 'biased' by thinking as a mere Aussie. They are just WORDS of OLD, that do NOT reflect racial status to me, or anyone else that I know. Yes... stop racism... But do not tar every one globally with the same brush with just 'words' EVEN just than line I JUST said there... "Taring people", EVIDENTLY meant JUST THAT a long time ago, when 'lesser' folk were covered in hot tar & then feathers. Is that bad??... YES!, of course, and we are more educated now, but such 'metaphors' exist today, like many others, that describe emotions & actions that are NOT condoned today, but get the point across... and NOT a racial one... :palm: I just know that 'I' will sleep every night, knowing that 'I' am not a 'racist', but will continue to 'complain' about the so-called 'do-gooders' who just want to make waves... :o |
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