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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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DimitriP:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 19, 2020, 08:10:14 am ---Alternative terms, without further comment: controller and responder.

Not my idea; see https://www.eetimes.com/its-time-for-ieee-to-retire-master-slave/

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To paraphrase the Carly Simon song ....  "You are so vain" .. "you think this term is about you".
After Llloyds , who will be apologizing next , compass ,  sail manufactures and shipbuilders ?

GeorgeOfTheJungle:
Is subnormal offensive too? Because that's what I think they are. What's the proper newspeak(*) term?

(*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

GeorgeOfTheJungle:
When a minority can impose its views on the majority, isn't that a perversion of democracy?

magic:

--- Quote from: paulca on June 17, 2020, 12:31:58 pm ---Not sure what your experience is of the software industry, but I have always found the environment quite calm.
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Well, my experience was always being an ambitious kid and hanging out with other ambitious men and preferring high gain / high risk over sure gain / low risk. I know a few competent female programmers and all of them work cozy corporate jobs and would never think of going to some crazy startup and ordering pizza at 16 to sit until night and get some complex feature done with the buddies after all the chit-chat of normal working hours is gone. I know men who do that, I have never seen a woman like that. And then feminists are envious of the achievements of the most talented, hardest working and also most lucky of some seriously obsessed nerds and think that there was some conspiracy to keep them out of the boys club.

At any rate, it's true, there is a "culture problem", if you insist that it's a bug and not a feature. Simply blaming the gender gap on women avoiding STEM topics as such doesn't explain the entirety of the gap, IMO.

This is perhaps not representative of the "median" industry experience, but it gets media attention when some kid achieves staggering success from his garage and then everybody asks why it had to be yet another boy and not a girl this time.

Also it has to be said that software nerds can be weird and quirky and it takes some thick skin to deal with it. Another disadvantage for women because they simply aren't thick skinned.

By the way, you fell for a meme (or I fell for Poe's law?)

--- Quote from: paulca on June 17, 2020, 06:49:08 am ---You do know that software or rather programming was invented by a woman?

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It really wasn't if you mean Ada Lovelace. Programmable computer (and by necessity - some program to run on it) was the idea of Babbage after he got tired of designing fixed-function automatic calculators for various complex formulas. Other kinds of programmable automatons using punch cards already existed, though weren't exactly Turing complete. What Ada did clearly see was an opportunity for advancement of science (and a business) in trying to tame his aspergeric tendecies, write about and popularize the idea, stop offending people left and right and get that shit built :)
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2015/12/untangling-the-tale-of-ada-lovelace/

DimitriP:

--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on June 19, 2020, 09:21:13 am ---When a minority can impose its views on the majority, isn't that a perversion of democracy?

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There is word for that:
ter·ror·ism

/ˈterəˌrizəm/

noun: terrorism

    the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
    "the fight against terrorism"

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