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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
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HobGoblyn:
Slaves have been around since virtually year zero.

Yes what the USA, UK etc did to black people was horrendous and wrong.   That doesn't get around the fact that society has always had slaves of some kind.

An employee is a slave, might have better conditions, might be able to leave if he/she wants (although many cant as they have bills to pay).


The Bible talks about slaves, Abraham's wife gave him her slave to have a child by. Leviticus gives  commands on how to treat  slaves.  even says


--- Quote ---‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
--- End quote ---


The Koran also mentions slaves.


Most (if not all) historic sites were built using slave Labour


So what next. rewrite the Bible, rewrite the Koran,  pull down all historic sites?  Erase history?   


Some of shakespears stuff regarding sex,  we would now consider abuse/underage  yet it's taught in some schools as it's part of history.

A master and a slave everyone understands the meaning.  A master and his slaves have existed almost since day 1.

I would much rather in the UK, those wanting statues of people like Nelson pulled down, would instead do something to try to stamp out modern slavery where young women are trafficked here and exploited.

The whole thing is getting stupid.  And I'm not talking about the terrible murder of George Floyd, I'm talking about the idiots using his death as an excuse to erase history.   

Sure there's some statues that are inappropriate. like the one that was pulled down in Bristol UK  that was built to celebrate a persons involvement in the slave trade. But as usual. the no brain cell idiots have jumped on the band wagon and they''re trying to get all sorts of statues destroyed,  for example they have removed Robert Baden-Powell's statue on police advice as it's now a target. For those who don't know, he founded the UK scouts movement,  did tons for his country.   




 
Jeroen3:
That does it. We should ban the bible.   :rant:  :P

But in all seriousness, if somehow we cannot uphold the master/slave terminology then perhaps military ranks like commander/gunner are suitable replacements?
I suspect due to economic downfall more and more people are going to have time to spend on issues like these.
Simon:
Yes indeed the word slave does not "target" anyone, it just states a fact that has applied to people of many cultures and still goes on today. In technical matters it is an apt description of devices that work under a designed scheme where one acts only as instructed by the other. As human slavery is so unpopular re-purposing the word in technical matters is more apt than say using the word employer/employee as that will just cause confusion. We all accept that slavery is a thing that in human culture should not exist so if we use the word to describe inanimate objects it is way less confusing and very obvious what is meant.
Simon:

--- Quote from: Jeroen3 on June 11, 2020, 01:25:21 pm ---That does it. We should ban the bible.   :rant:  :P

But in all seriousness, if somehow we cannot uphold the master/slave terminology then perhaps military ranks like commander/gunner are suitable replacements?
I suspect due to economic downfall more and more people are going to have time to spend on issues like these.

--- End quote ---

You mean that have more time no to GROW UP!
Nominal Animal:
Words are so prejudiced and racist, we must all go on strike, right?

I'm seriously thinking about deliberately becoming a racist curmudgeon.  This political whining about words and group identities and being oppressed, when there is stuff to DO to make the world a better place, is doing my head in.  I'm a fucking individual, not a representative or interchangeable member of whatever group hierarchy you're trying to build; I won't change my vocabulary or bend my knee because someone with the same skin color as I has been mean to someone with your skin color at some time.

These activists and "scientists" can all stuff their eusocial hierarchies up their bums for all I care.
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