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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
Simon:
We've managed to be fairly on topic or at least not flame waring so far.
If we can't use a same word in a different context people better start learning a whole new load of words.
magic:
It occurred to me there may be a problem with master/slave devices on primary/secondary IDE buses :-//
--- Quote from: Simon on June 19, 2020, 07:42:01 am ---Quite, changing the term does nothing and is worse as it just ignores the problem which is worse. Just brushing it under the carpet and renaming things is causing the perpetuation of the problem and makes those pretending to solve the problem incompetent and they are just causing more harm. But instead they get a pat on the back for "fixing" it by changing a name.
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The problem is, as I said before, that there are people in America who just don't want to integrate and would rather favor segregation. A large part of American politics is a nonstop dick waving contest between those and the integrationists and all those seemingly bullshit little things are taken in that context by them. Allowing "the nazis" to get their way in any controversy is what would be considered "a regress" and "brushing problems under the carpet". Once the meme has been created that master/slave is racist, it does become racist, simply because the racists will find ways to use it for trolling if nothing else.
If you try to naively take American politics at face value you will go insane.
I completely expect that they will do it; say hello to "initiating peers" on I2C :D
--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 19, 2020, 01:43:17 pm ---Oh, and the person complaining almost always isn't part of that group they are complaining the word is offending.
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No shortage of group members who will gladly agree to be represented by the "allies", man.
tom66:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 19, 2020, 02:47:30 pm ---I suggest: COMRADE for both units instead. Each device takes turns leading the dance, or perhaps they vote on each transaction. We can call the system as a whole PARADISE! :D
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COMRADE, I have never heard of such a more fantastic idea. We shall ensure all devices upon the bus are equal. Should a conflict occur, we shall resolve any such conflict with peaceful negotiations around the address bus table. Failing that, nuclear war is the only alternative.
DimitriP:
--- Quote from: paulca on June 19, 2020, 09:56:35 am ---
--- Quote from: DimitriP on June 19, 2020, 09:28:46 am ---
--- Quote from: GeorgeOfTheJungle on June 19, 2020, 09:21:13 am ---When a minority can impose its views on the majority, isn't that a perversion of democracy?
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There is word for that:
ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"
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You mean like the USA these last 3 or 4 decades?
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The list is long and distinguished, how far back do you want to go ?
There are always interests to be served. And there are always people willing to join the cause from a semi-innocent semi-naive point of view not realizing they are really serving a purpose that ideology is only used to control them , keep them busy , in servitude of whatever those "interests" are.
james_s:
--- Quote from: Simon on June 19, 2020, 08:11:43 am ---I likely have aspergers, I would like to be called special for the particular skills i have but instead it has a negative connotation and signals that i am inferior.
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I know I do, I was diagnosed about 20 years ago and it was a revelation, suddenly it made sense why so many people seem as though they live in a different reality than that which I perceive. Ironically on multiple occasions I've had people try to tell me that something is offensive to autistic people. I think the Onion's autistic reporter is hilarious because his behavior is almost exactly what goes on inside my head before my educated mind goes "wait, don't say that, people will think you're weird, respond this way instead" or something of that nature, yet I've seen a lot of people claim those skits are offensive, people who themselves are not autistic.
There are so many people out there who seem obsessed with white-knighting for groups of people they themselves do not even belong to and it drives me nuts.
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