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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: rsjsouza on June 20, 2020, 01:28:59 am ---My biggest problem with these apparently mild changes of words is when the books start to be burned. After all, a lot is already being done to erase history and, as Brett Weinstein mentioned in the latest Joe Rogan Podcast, this is a very sophisticated technique to change and convert your mind: instead of brute force, you start agreeing with the "perpetrator" in a few common ground topucs and, through the use of fallacy and false equivalency, you end up far long in the doctrine.

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This is why you can't let it take hold, if you do it will eventually infest everything. They will not stop at one word, there are no lines, there are boundaries, they will keep pushing because they feel more empowered every time you cave in.
Rational people (in particular, leaders) have to take a stand and say no, this is stupid, it adds no value and is just disrupting society, go away.

John B:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 20, 2020, 01:33:42 am ---
--- Quote from: rsjsouza on June 20, 2020, 01:28:59 am ---My biggest problem with these apparently mild changes of words is when the books start to be burned. After all, a lot is already being done to erase history and, as Brett Weinstein mentioned in the latest Joe Rogan Podcast, this is a very sophisticated technique to change and convert your mind: instead of brute force, you start agreeing with the "perpetrator" in a few common ground topucs and, through the use of fallacy and false equivalency, you end up far long in the doctrine.

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This is why you can't let it take hold, if you do it will eventually infest everything. They will not stop at one word, there are no lines, there are boundaries, they will keep pushing because they feel more empowered every time you cave in.
Rational people (in particular, leaders) have to take a stand and say no, this is stupid, it adds no value and is just disrupting society, go away.

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Yes, those who cannot control themselves will seek to control everyone and everything around them.

I cannot understand why anyone would think it's a good idea to take on the responsibility of maintaining and moderating the emotional state of those who are easily offended, but even in this community there are examples of people who have a perverse symbiosis with this way of thinking, ie the "white male saviour" type who speaks all the right platitudes and indulges the whims of the easily offended.  :-// I guess that is how they fit into a group.

One thing to note is the subtle but important distinction in describing something as "offensive" vs noting that people are taking offense. One area to erect a solid boundary is not to assent to the idea that things are offensive, but rather that people are taking offense.

After all, some are more equal than others, and if you accept the notion of inherently offensive things, some people's offense will take precedent over, well, everything.

SilverSolder:

We have to recognize that not everyone is a self confident alpha male...  while acknowledging that the problem isn't fixed by killing off all alpha males!

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 03:31:33 am ---We have to recognize that not everyone is a self confident alpha male...  while acknowledging that the problem isn't fixed by killing off all alpha males!

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Succinct, accurate, useful :)

SparkyFX:

--- Quote from: james_s on June 19, 2020, 05:07:48 pm ---There are so many people out there who seem obsessed with white-knighting for groups of people they themselves do not even belong to and it drives me nuts.

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The empathy of others drives you nuts? There is this "Golden Rule" which people that just try to get along usually live by, trying to vilify it as white-knighting is as good as trying to vilify off context terms like master and slave. If you prefer more scientific descriptions look up "mirror neurons".

And thats exactly what ICs do not possess, so it's kind of pointless to discuss ambiguity of language for technical devices, probably just the result of trying to roll etymology on its head (the use of these terms in slavery do describe it in already existing language, not the language enabled slavery) in a sensationalized form.

These connotations often do not cross language barriers as well, or have a completely different connotation in different languages, then the discussion even makes less sense.

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