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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
nuclearcat:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 20, 2020, 01:13:44 am ---I don't mind people getting upset or offended at something I said, that's ok. But once I explain to them the context and the intention, that should be that, end of discussion. But sadly in the vast majority of cases that doesn't happen, these people are simply incapable of understanding nuance and context. And it is impossible to hold any rational conversation with them.
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Some people enjoy to invent silly reason, to create conflict for nothing, to literally destroy life of someone (and this someone should have some significanct, they dont want to destroy some noname guy, its not making them satisfied enough). These nonentities enjoy burning every bit of another person well-being, happiness and success, they are not stopping even when their victim wants to kill himself.
Because it makes them feel "successful", they want to feel something that they are not created for, and that they often blame - being "alpha", "a predator tearing apart a helpless prey".
Usually these are pricks in their miserable life tried their best to stand out from the crowd in cheap ways, but they did not really succeed, until they hit jackpot, making scandals and fabricating some lies about other people, "because significant person did <<some trendy thing>>", like used wrong word or phrase.
What really works and when they back off is 2 things:
1)When there is not enough fumes, person that is being attacked is able to put out the scandal (thats how how you do it ,explaining that you didn’t want to offend anyone and this was said in a different context). But sometimes it doesnt work, fire is too big.
2)When attacker taste their own medicine.
I remember some twitter user, professor at uni, was attacked by such person(let's call "warrior"), for some invented reason. "Warrior" didn't stopped on arguing in twitter, started calling and sending professor university emails, and tried to fabricate something so professor get fired.
Professor just highlighted it to his followers, "warror" got dox-ed, professor just told name and only facts in his tweet, what this person did. Then professor followers juste caller his/her job and told about this story to employer of warrior.
"Warrior" deleted story, tried to backoff and asked "professor" to delete tweets, but he said he have no mercy on such people. There is seems a lot of brilliant professors who lost their jobs in academia because of such "warriors".
I remember thunderf00t, Gad Saad and probably some other people has such stories, and probably this is only line of defense to survive attacks of this scum.
Interestingly, Gad Saad makes it clear to everyone that he will not hide and whine, but will immediately begin a counterattack. This scares off most idiots.
"Master and slave" doesn't really serve purpose to fix life of those poor folks who are suffering from slavery flashbacks, it is just new new page in modern <<Malleus Maleficarum>>.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 20, 2020, 05:15:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 20, 2020, 03:16:31 pm ---One thing I've noticed is most people, of any colour, hate false accusations of racism. They feel it undermines everyone fighting for equality and there should be consequencies for anyone making false, malicious allegations. I think falsely accusing someone of racism, is a form of racism in itself and deserves a similar punishment.
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It's the same as accusing someone of being a witch, except that at least racism is a real thing and some people actually are racist. In both cases it's a serious accusation by which one is guilty until proven innocent and it is impossible to prove innocence. It's a convenient way to silence someone with which one disagrees.
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I agree and the reason why I see it as racist is because it wouldn't happen if the accused was the same colour as the complainant. It's an imbalance of power. The odd thing is it works both ways. On the one hand a greater proportion of white people are in positions of power, but there again people of colour have the advantage of being able to play the race card and bring innocent people, as well as the guilty down. The problem is, it's only people with money to start with who are able to employ good lawyers and make mud stick. If that coach was really racist and called some poor kid in the street nigger, nothing bad would have happened to him.
To really deal with racism. We need to focus less on skin colour and bad words and more on inequalities in society, upward mobility and allowing people of different backgrounds to mix, especially children. Once people of different colours and creeds get to know one another, they'll realise we're all human and that superficial differences such as skin colour don't matter. Unfortunately this will take time and most western governments seem be making a mess of it, so far.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on June 20, 2020, 05:58:05 pm ---[...] allowing people of different backgrounds to mix, especially children. Once people of different colours and creeds get to know one another, they'll realise we're all human and that superficial differences such as skin colour don't matter. [...]
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I believe this has already been happening, to large segments of society. But we have a large "rump" population of reactionaries that haven't made the transition - a kind of hidden group of "left behinds", if you like. They are hard to reach in part because they insist on their right to see things their way (minds not open to anything new).
magic:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 06:32:09 pm ---I believe this has already been happening, to large segments of society.
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TV made you believe it, among other well meant attempts to accelerate this process along the logic spelled out by Zero999.
Maybe it has happened to some people in your vicinity too.
But when you look outside large cities (or even at "ghetto" areas in large Western cities) you will see a rather different picture.
And that doesn't even begin to describe the world at large.
I don't have numbers, but I believe America is still heavily segregated geographically. And it certainly is racially segregated by class, something I surely noticed while interning in SV which set me on the whole path of doubting if the liberals actually know what they are doing.
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 06:32:09 pm ---They are hard to reach in part because they insist on their right to see things their way (minds not open to anything new).
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Liberalism for you :-//
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: magic on June 20, 2020, 07:16:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 06:32:09 pm ---I believe this has already been happening, to large segments of society.
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TV made you believe it, among other well meant attempts to accelerate this process along the logic spelled out by Zero999.
Maybe it has happened to some people in your vicinity too.
But when you look outside large cities (or even at "ghetto" areas in large Western cities) you will see a rather different picture.
And that doesn't even begin to describe the world at large.
I don't have numbers, but I believe America is still heavily segregated geographically. And it certainly is racially segregated by class, something I surely noticed while interning in SV which set me on the whole path of doubting if the liberals actually know what they are doing.
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 06:32:09 pm ---They are hard to reach in part because they insist on their right to see things their way (minds not open to anything new).
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Liberalism for you :-//
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It seems to me the far right and the far left share the same trait of having their "eyes wide shut". People somewhere in the middle, trying to make things work, are rarely the problem.
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