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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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Simon:
Well this is my point. Positive discrimination is still discrimination. I rarely fill in the race box on a form unless it's medical. If you want equality or to make sure you treat people equal then what better than not knowing their race!

G7PSK:
The whole race and equality thing is fueled by hypocrisy, stupidity and lack of education as is BLM and the anti slavery thing, the people protesting all of this are using equipment made using modern slavery containing minerals mind using child slaves and are being egged on by the likes of Louis Hamilton.

Simon:
No we will just ignore that history.

SparkyFX:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 21, 2020, 02:25:14 am ---Adafruit are replacing Master/Slave and other terms in all their documentation:
https://www.adafruit.com/blacklivesmatter

--- End quote ---
Their documentation derives from/uses terminology from datasheets that contain these very words and are quite old, which might introduce a small potential for error/misunderstanding. I guess rewriting old datasheets - or literature in general - will not be feasible (practically, economically or just because of copyrights) and those are the ones you'd have to read to understand the function. So people learning about the subject will face it anyway. I guess back in the day there were better ways to express such a system, otoh the parts do not possess conscience, it can only be offending to the person reading it and unilaterally changing context.

Changing online documentation and using different terminology in newly created documentation shouldn't be a big problem - all in all it is the readers task to understand the concept and then keep working on.

It probably is important to have such a discussion, but obnoxious people usually come up with ways to make harmless language sound confrontational anyway. The thing is, a euphemism treadmill in general does not work as it should (solve the problem), otherwise it would not be a treadmill. Not when it is the underlying intention which is the problem as well as asserting an intention to authors.

The term "idiot" is a good example, i bet its in the ppm range an actual idiot (context: medical definition of IQ < 70, but even they changed it to mental retardation) is called an idiot, which means by a blurry, usage based definition of language a language-defining entity either decides it is wrong usage (is idiotic) or a redefinition is needed. According to wikipedia the word originated from "a private citizen" - so by that most of us are idiots, you just need to go back in time long enough. It can only be the intention that counts.

Simon:
i have come across SPI stuff that uses DI and DO and it confused the hell out of me. I don't think it was written like that because of sensitivities but poor English and understanding of SPI along with the fact that the screen never returns data to the master.

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