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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
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julianhigginson:
I mean, here's a guy rallying against the use of the word "you" in singular form from a few centuries ago. (bottom paragraph of page)
IF ONLY WE HAD LISTENED TO HIM, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS MESS.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hQCAXr0OmDcC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=corrupt+and+unsound+form+of+speaking+thou&source=bl&ots=K94jKqxTiX&sig=4HQpeGdvehlrEsl3YFWvitqZIFk&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=corrupt%20and%20unsound%20form%20of%20speaking%20thou&f=false

I bet he had perfectly reasonable and acceptable views around slavery, too.
PlainName:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
PlainName:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: julianhigginson on June 22, 2020, 12:29:57 am ---It's language. It's always changing. It changes for plenty of reasons. Getting upset about *one* instance of words changing for the specific purpose of relieving some perceived level of suffering in some group of people seems (even if it seems like "tokenism" or 'white saviourship virtue signalling" does that even matter that much?) seems, well, a little bit off.
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I find it odd that you treat this as fait accompli, something that has happened organically, and not as a very small minority trying to force everyone else change, because of their lack of control over their own emotions.


--- Quote from: julianhigginson on June 22, 2020, 12:29:57 am ---because no matter how ridiculous it might be, it's really not going to cause anyone reading this any measurable harm.
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You mean, any harm you are willing to measure.  I've already mentioned a lot of harm it actually does – in particular, in analogous situations (human trafficking) it has been shown to make the situation only worse for the roughly ten million humans living right now in slavery, because using the term is now considered offensive.

By the way, I do understand I really should not have replied to you.  You are way beyond changing your opinion on this, no matter what kind of factual evidence anybody would show, because just like certain other members here, and a vast majority of those demanding equity, you are ideologically possessed:  No critical thinking and analysis, only repeating the same unfounded emotionally-based arguments and demands over and over again.

I feel bad for you, because I know you believe you are on the "good side", and believe this is all for a positive outcome, and that "we" are just being an obstacle for progress.  A perfect example of why the old adage, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", is so apt.
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: julianhigginson on June 22, 2020, 12:29:57 am ---And the good news is, once the new terms get decided on (people will come to a consensus about what they all want to use)
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 :-DD

You do realise the ridiculously tiny magnitude of people pushing for this, right?
Only a fraction of a percent of people in the industry have any idea this debate is happening, let alone care even if they did know about it.


--- Quote ---It's language. It's always changing. It changes for plenty of reasons. Getting upset about *one* instance of words changing for the specific purpose of relieving some perceived level of suffering in some group of people seems (even if it seems like "tokenism" or 'white saviourship virtue signalling" does that even matter that much?) seems, well, a little bit off.  because no matter how ridiculous it might be, it's really not going to cause anyone reading this any measurable harm.
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Anyone is free to change anything they want, go for it. Just don't be surprised when most other people don't give a rats arse and don't follow along.
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