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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
julianhigginson:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 22, 2020, 02:57:54 am --- :-DD
You do realise the ridiculously tiny magnitude of people pushing for this, right?
Only a fraction of a percent of people in the industry have any idea this debate is happening, let alone care even if they did know about it.
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well I sure didn't know about it till I read this thread.
I expect others will catch on in time if it's meant to be.
I also expect it's probably meant to be, but hey I've been wrong before.
--- Quote ---Anyone is free to change anything they want, go for it. Just don't be surprised when most other people don't give a rats arse and don't follow along.
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All good. I'm not for forcing anyone to change.. I'm only talking about what I want to do on the topic of this EEVblog forum thread.
magic:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 22, 2020, 06:36:21 am ---The singular "they" has been in documented use since 1375, i.e. >600 years.
https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/
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Of course somebody will always bring up the damn Shakespeare.
It wasn't in common use. I haven't seen it on the Internet until feminists and later LBGTsts started pushing for it in the 2010s.
And that was only after a failed attempt to force 'xhe' or something like that. I remember reading posts from early 2010s where good liberals were using those new pronouns, that was eye sore :scared:
--- Quote from: julianhigginson on June 22, 2020, 06:55:56 am ---My understanding is it's not be about making the words disappear, it's about removing those words form the context of technical discussions where they apparently are used by some people to deliberately bully other people. And maybe also even about not diluting/normalising them.
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Of course. If we remove the words then the thoughts themselves will become impossible :-+
Myself, I will just start calling those niggas 'peripherals' from now on 8)
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: magic on June 22, 2020, 07:05:06 am ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 22, 2020, 06:36:21 am ---The singular "they" has been in documented use since 1375, i.e. >600 years.
https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/
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Of course somebody will always bring up the damn Shakespeare.
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Er. No. That was a couple of centuries before Shakespeare started writing plays.
--- Quote ---It wasn't in common use.
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Er no. It was in common use.
--- Quote ---I haven't seen it on the Internet until feminists and later LBGTsts started pushing for it in the 2010s.
And that was only after a failed attempt to force 'xhe' or something like that. I remember reading posts from early 2010s where good liberals were using those new pronouns, that was eye sore :scared:
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Yet again you are rather late to the party; making definitive incorrect statements merely emphasises that.
Try the late 80s/early 90s on usenet, with people trying to push "hir" instead of his/her.
Better luck next time, thank you for playing.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: julianhigginson on June 22, 2020, 06:55:56 am ---My understanding is it's not be about making the words disappear, it's about removing those words form the context of technical discussions where they apparently are used by some people to deliberately bully other people.
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That is a ridiculous assertion.
Cite one example of where someone has used master/slave in a technical document context to "bully other people"
And even if you could cite a few examples, is that a reason to abandon a standard industry term that has been used and taught for generations?
If it is, then seriously, what's next? And there is always a next.
Zero999:
Lots of words have been used in the past to bully other people, which are not bad words in themselves for example: thick, dumb, backwards etc. It depends on the context.
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