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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: wilfred on June 25, 2020, 02:05:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 25, 2020, 12:23:27 pm --- It is an extremely effective technique for diluting the value of a forum, and for sucking up a lot of the moderators' valuable time.

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Moderators made over 10% of the posts in this thread. You might value their time more than they do.

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Oh, I value their time at zero :)

More relevantly, ISTR most of those moderators' posts have been about the subject, not time spent on moderation activities. In other words, ordinary people commenting on subjects that interest them.

edy:
I wonder if anyone every encountered the terms "Master" and "Slave" in the Old Testament and realized that they have a very different meaning than the more contemporary understanding. A "slave" was more like an "indentured servant" and any mistreatment of this person by their "Master" would result in their immediate freedom and damages paid to them and charges against the "Master" in court. As well, the "Master" would have to provide for their servant food, clothing, shelter and a standard of living that was comparable to theirs or better. The "slave" could not work more than a MAXIMUM of 6 years of service, and the Master would have to provide them with enough (money, clothing, etc) to last them a while to get a foothold in society. Any wife or children of the servant also went free with them.

The reason for the person even falling into the "indentured servant" state was usually due to needing to work off a debt, or sometimes it was imposed by the court for either causing someone damages or due to a crime they committed. It was designed to be a rehabilitation and to allow the person to work back trust and work ethic in the society. "Masters" therefore had to be chosen carefully and knew they had obligations and responsibilities to their "slave", as much as the "slave" did.

The price a "Master" would pay for a "slave" (indentured servant) was commensurate with how much the indentured servant was in liability to another party C. If the indentured servant caused damage, was in debt or committed a crime against party C, and the court ruled they had to pay $6,000 for example to party C.... If the person couldn't pay it, a "Master" could pay on their behalf (almost like a bond) and now come under their wing and work off the debt by helping the Master. The amount $6,000 would determine the number of years or the type of labor or work involved or negotiate between slaves/masters in a market system.

Anyways, modern and biblical conceptions of "Master" and "Slave" were very different. The words are very much difficult to use today, with all of the easily-offended people. But times change. Even with Hard Drives I am not convinced they really mean or convey the proper relationship either. Maybe Dominant/Submissive?  :-DD  Then you'll get flack from the BDSM crouds...  :-DD

TimFox:
In this modern age, actual history and definitions have become irrelevant.  Yesterday, a mob in Madison, Wisconsin decided to destroy historical statues.  One of the statues depicted a Civil War hero Colonel HC Heg, who was a strong abolitionist and headed a militia that fought against "slave catchers" during the "fugitive slave" era.  See  https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/06/24/madison-protesters-pull-down-forward-hans-christian-heg-statues-attack-senator-sculptures-in-lake/3247948001/  and  https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime-and-courts/photos-so-who-was-hans-christian-heg-heres-why-the-civil-war-hero-had-a/collection_31313606-691a-52d2-a4fa-cbe4eca84f73.html#7  for Wisconsin coverage of the event.

vodka:


The orcs  BLM hordes already incame to Spain.

https://youtu.be/VoAfb3f04mo

BLM request to Lacasa corporation to retire such the image  of the black man  like the title of the product "Conguitos" for being racist.
The Conguitos is snack made of peanuts with coating of chocolate. Its name is refered to fiction tribe from "Republic of Congo"


https://twnews.es/es-news/piden-la-retirada-de-la-imagen-de-los-conguitos-por-racismo


Here some  Conguito ads:

https://youtu.be/C7xx011coJk

eti:
Up next: Abolition of the word "camp" used in the context of "camping ground" or "base camp", in case some homosexual snowflakes get "offended".

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