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'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts
donotdespisethesnake:
--- Quote from: magic on July 02, 2020, 01:54:16 pm ---You see what you want to see.
The Hackaday comments section linked a few days ago is like a 50:50 back-and-forth between the two camps.
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I know you are trolling, but you need to try harder. Why do you bother with this shit? You don't fool anyone.
A lot of negative comments were deleted, before the thread was locked. Most of the pro comments were from a few vocal supporters, a lot of the negative ones a single post like "this is stupid". It's a similar picture on other sites. Your stats are BS. You are a troll.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on July 01, 2020, 10:47:53 am ---More irony...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53245501
--- Quote ---The head of human resources at sportswear giant Adidas has resigned amid a row over the firm's corporate culture and lack of diversity.
Karen Parkin is a British citizen who had worked at Adidas for more than 20 years.
Her exit follows protests by Adidas staff over a comment she reportedly made at an internal meeting last year.
...
Ms Parkin, who is leaving the role with immediate effect, was the only woman on the company's board.
Her resignation means that the company's executive board is now made up entirely of white men. Adidas has previously said that it would take action to address issues of diversity and inclusion.
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Shoot the messenger, but still no real change.
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It gets worse.
--- Quote ---The company has promised to ensure that at least 30% of its new employees in America will come from black or Latino backgrounds.
It also set a target of those groups filling 12% of its US leadership roles within five years.
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When the quota system is introduced, it would be perfectly understandable for colleagues to believe that every new black or Latino employee only got the job to meet the target. What an excellant way to promote respect for ethnic minorities in the workforce. :palm:
I'm fortunate to work in a company who's ethnic diversity fairly closely represents the local area. There are a good number of South Asians where I work, but perhaps Afro-Caribbean is slightly under represented, but I wouldn't think anything of it if someone of that background where hired and no one would treat them any differently. Now if the managers decided to set quotas, this would inevitably change, especially if a useless person of the targetted ethnicity gets the job.
xrunner:
Just saw this reading news -
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JPMorgan drops terms 'master,' 'slave' from internal tech code and materials
Reuters - 6:48 PM ET 7/2/2020
NEW YORK (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co ( JPM ) is eliminating terms like "blacklist," "master" and "slave" from its internal technology materials and code as it seeks to address racism within the company, said two sources with knowledge of the move.
The terms had appeared in some of the bank's technology policies, standards and control procedures, as well in the programming code that runs some of its processes, one of the sources said.
Other companies like Twitter Inc and GitHub Inc adopted similar changes, prompted by the renewed spotlight on racism after the death of George Floyd, a Black man who died in police custody in Minneapolis in May. https://twitter.com/TwitterEng/status/1278733303508418560
The phrases "master" and "slave" code or drive are used in some programming languages and computer hardware to describe one part of a device or process that controls another.
"Blacklist" is used to describe items that are automatically denied, like a list of websites forbidden by a company's cybersecurity division. "Whitelist" means the opposite - a list of items automatically approved.
Floyd's death has sparked a re-examination of words that might carry racial overtones. For example, some realtors are no longer using the term "master bedroom," and Universal Music Group's Republic Records stopped using the word "urban" to describe music genres and internal departments or roles.
JPMorgan ( JPM ) appears to be the first in the financial sector to remove most references to these racially problematic phrases, and it comes after the bank has said it is taking other steps to promote Black professionals and anti-bias culture training for staff.
Columbia Business School programming professor Mattan Griffel said such terms have long been controversial and can be difficult to change.
The technology that underpins bank operations is often a spaghetti-like mess that results from merged companies, decades-old code and third-party systems, and any change can have cascading effects that are difficult to predict, Griffel said.
Changing these terms within the bank's code could take millions of dollars and months of work, Griffel said.
"This is not a trivial" investment by the bank, Griffel said. "This kind of language and terminology is so entrenched. It has to (change) and now is as good a time as any."
https://www.fidelity.com/news/article/top-news/202007021839RTRSNEWSCOMBINED_KBN2433E4-OUSBS_1
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PlainName:
I wonder what the next bandwagon will be du jour will be.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: xrunner on July 03, 2020, 12:17:34 am ---Just saw this reading news -
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JPMorgan drops terms 'master,' 'slave' from internal tech code and materials
Reuters - 6:48 PM ET 7/2/2020
NEW YORK (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co ( JPM ) is eliminating terms like "blacklist," "master" and "slave" from its internal technology materials and code as it seeks to address racism within the company, said two sources with knowledge of the move.
The terms had appeared in some of the bank's technology policies, standards and control procedures, as well in the programming code that runs some of its processes, one of the sources said.
Other companies like Twitter Inc and GitHub Inc adopted similar changes, prompted by the renewed spotlight on racism after the death of George Floyd, a Black man who died in police custody in Minneapolis in May. https://twitter.com/TwitterEng/status/1278733303508418560
The phrases "master" and "slave" code or drive are used in some programming languages and computer hardware to describe one part of a device or process that controls another.
"Blacklist" is used to describe items that are automatically denied, like a list of websites forbidden by a company's cybersecurity division. "Whitelist" means the opposite - a list of items automatically approved.
Floyd's death has sparked a re-examination of words that might carry racial overtones. For example, some realtors are no longer using the term "master bedroom," and Universal Music Group's Republic Records stopped using the word "urban" to describe music genres and internal departments or roles.
JPMorgan ( JPM ) appears to be the first in the financial sector to remove most references to these racially problematic phrases, and it comes after the bank has said it is taking other steps to promote Black professionals and anti-bias culture training for staff.
Columbia Business School programming professor Mattan Griffel said such terms have long been controversial and can be difficult to change.
The technology that underpins bank operations is often a spaghetti-like mess that results from merged companies, decades-old code and third-party systems, and any change can have cascading effects that are difficult to predict, Griffel said.
Changing these terms within the bank's code could take millions of dollars and months of work, Griffel said.
"This is not a trivial" investment by the bank, Griffel said. "This kind of language and terminology is so entrenched. It has to (change) and now is as good a time as any."
https://www.fidelity.com/news/article/top-news/202007021839RTRSNEWSCOMBINED_KBN2433E4-OUSBS_1
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Jesus wept. Millions of dollars and tons of work, without helping a single black man, woman, or child in need.
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