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| rgarito:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 02, 2020, 07:45:34 pm ---I think we'll see a lot of rules and regulations being short-circuited as the crisis unfolds and I'm perfectly ok with that. If we end up with tens of thousands of people dying while the gears of bureaucracy slowly turn and workable lifesaving machines sit waiting that is going to create an entirely new issue. I don't give a damn about regulations right now, we don't have the luxury of worrying about that, during a situation like we have unfolding the normal rules no longer apply, people are getting creative out of necessity. Already we have hospitals buying supplies on ebay, taking donations from companies and private individuals, doctors coming up with "MacGyver" solutions to connect multiple patients to ventilators designed for one person. PPEs are being manufactured already by all sorts of companies and individuals as hospitals have been doing things that would *never* fly during normal times like washing and reusing disposable items. This morning I read some unrelated company was repairing broken ventilators for hospitals in I think it was California. Having repaired a lot of veterinary medical equipment (which in many cases is identical to human equipment sans the red tape) it has occurred to me that I could do something like that if I found myself needing employment. --- End quote --- Keep in mind, too, that the permissive license for this thing requires ( :-DD ) that each device made from this be labeled: COVID-19 Warning: This Ventilator was created for use only in response to the COVID- 19 pandemic. It is provided AS IS. |
| MadTux:
Yeah, just another heap of corona bullshit. If it ever gets that far with me, I'd rather take some barbiturates and die than be sedated and connected to some botched together ventilator systems. First scenario, I die painlessly and quick, second scenario, I probably die as well, just much more slowly and painfully. And if the guy which sedates me fucks up, I wake up as as an oxygen deprived retard, how fun is that. Same happens, if the homebuild ventilator craps out. The only thing I would trust is with with old school iron lungs. Requires nothing but some old barrels, some valves, very basic electronics and couple of radial compressors from like old vacuum cleaners. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: José.jmaacc on April 02, 2020, 02:25:29 am ---aren't you guys slightly worried that the sharing of all this information might create clones that don't work properly and can NOT be identified as clones? It can result in both genuine and clones to be ALL removed from medical centers. --- End quote --- They're accurate enough to be indistinguishable but not accurate enough to work? Sounds unlikely. Besides, there are always going to be differences. Two injection moulds from the same drawing are doing to be different when made by different mould makers. |
| José.jmaacc:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 02, 2020, 05:14:41 pm ---Don't worry too much, as the chances of a cloned device (or any non-approved device) making it to intensive care units of hospitals are close to zero anyway. (...) --- End quote --- about my knowledge of medical devices, right now you are correct, however there are still 2 or 3 phases left of this event, and are we presently at phase 5?? are we sure? How long will it last? When will we have the first 45days(22*2+1) delimited region without new cases? Will it be June 2021(two thousand and twenty one)? The rules that exist now protect health systems but will they exist by then ? |
| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: José.jmaacc on April 02, 2020, 10:17:20 pm ---The rules that exist now protect health systems but will they exist by then ? --- End quote --- You don't want to know. |
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