We can agree to disagree.
What!??!!! After 958 comments? NOOOOOooooooo
Lol
I didn't read the whole thread. How long has electrodacus been insisting the car that goes down wind faster than the wind doesn't? How long has he insisted energy involves time and power doesn't?
I find his arguments mildly entertaining. The diagram posted seems to me to be a lot of fluff. Especially amusing is his stored energy argument to explain "impossible actions" when it is just poor construction at work. Then he says a better constructed model has "micro storage" of energy or something.
If the wheels are geared 2:1, applying a force to the 1 wheel by moving the belt it is riding on will exert say 1 unit of force in the direction of the belt. The gearing will result in twice the movement in the 2 wheel and
half the force. The two forces are opposite, so the vehicle has a half unit of force pushing it in the direction of the moving belt with the movement relative to the ground being twice the velocity of the movement of the belt.
I'm willing to say I'm wrong when someone shows that to me. Happy to, in fact. But someone who doesn't understand that "rate of change" in regards to values like power and energy fundamentally involves time can't possibly construct a rational argument. While rate of change can refer to some other variable, in the case of power, it is the rate of change of energy wrt time. Power involves time. Energy does not.
This is such an insane argument! I won't argue with the guy because his arguments are so specious, yet I want so badly to help him understand. But I'm not going to chase impossible dreams. They guy clearly does not want to understand, so no one can help him.