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A fringe benefit of being a video creator is how occasionally you get viewers squabbling amongst themselves. Sometimes playing games of one-upmanship - eg "I've done this for 70  years", "I worked for NASA", "I'm a war veteran so am a better person", etc etc.  As creator you get to read, with the ultimate power of deleting comments if it gets out of hand.

Anyway I thought I'd ask other electronic YouTubers to post their most controversial video (or the non-controversial ones that somehow provoked vigorous exchanges).

Here's my example.  Admittedly I knew it could provoke since it discussed American-style survivalists and preppers. In this case the risk of inexperienced people having unrealistic expectations of the capabilities of novelty-type minimalist radio gear that's fun for a weekend play but completely inadequate for dependable communications.  (And Dave you're not the only Aussie that gets comments on their voice - my monotone is not always liked). 



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And Dave you're not the only Aussie that gets comments on their voice - my monotone is not always liked
I remember coming across your videos several years ago e.g. and noticed you had a very distinctive voice, with a "harsh edge" to it (not bad, but distinctive), but in the example video you linked, you sound completely different.
 

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It's not mine but I like this one:


 
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Thread wouldn't be complete without Dave's
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this one made me angry. he can thank arduino for me being a subscriber and a hobbyist.
Just me and my scope.
 

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this one made me angry. he can thank arduino for me being a subscriber and a hobbyist.
Not sure why, Dave gives Arduino a thumbs up in that video.
 

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I wouldn't believe anything Youtube wankers claimed,

unless they posted links to solid PROOF of their identity and resume

They may have worked at N A S A as Latrine Engineers

or 24/7 subcontractors for 'Maccas Deployment On Demand'

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A fringe benefit of being a video creator is how occasionally you get viewers squabbling amongst themselves.

It's one of the perks.
Someone one might even throw in an occasional trolling statement too just for kicks, or so I've heard  ;D
 
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this one made me angry. he can thank arduino for me being a subscriber and a hobbyist.
Not sure why, Dave gives Arduino a thumbs up in that video.
The only group of people who I think that video would offend are the assembly diehards, who think assembly is the only way to go.
 

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this one made me angry. he can thank arduino for me being a subscriber and a hobbyist.
Not sure why, Dave gives Arduino a thumbs up in that video.
The only group of people who I think that video would offend are the assembly diehards, who think assembly is the only way to go.

But...modding ROMs in assembly is fun!
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this one made me angry. he can thank arduino for me being a subscriber and a hobbyist.
Not sure why, Dave gives Arduino a thumbs up in that video.
The only group of people who I think that video would offend are the assembly diehards, who think assembly is the only way to go.

But...modding ROMs in assembly is fun!
Assembly has its place and I even found it easier to learn than C because I was more familiar with it. It's good for understanding how the device works at a hardware level and is sometimes the best way to write code which is time critical.

However I wouldn't advocate writing an entire professional project in assembly or make claims about it being quicker to write than a high level language. Assembly cod can be a pain in the bum to follow and is not portable, so if you change to a different architecture, you have to re-write everything.
 

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The only group of people who I think that video would offend are the assembly diehards, who think assembly is the only way to go.
I think Dave referred to all assembly programmers as archaic dickheads in one part of the video. Not very classy.

Being able to read and write assembly language (and being able to recognise hex opcodes) is a useful skill if you want to reverse engineer something that uses a microcontroller. I can remember being mocked at work (by some of our best programmers) for wanting to learn 8086 assembly way back in the dark days of DOS. This was so I could defeat a PC program that used encryption and some external hardware to protect parts of its code. Within a year or so these same programmers were coming to ME cap in hand asking for help for similar tasks because they couldn't cope with trying to reverse engineer or decrypt other people's code when disassembled.

Since then I've used my assembly language skills to reverse engineer numerous car ECU programs and defeat a lot of encryption/protection systems. Of course this doesn't mean assembly language programmers are better, and it obviously doesn't mean we should all program in assembly, but I do think people who can program in assembly language (or at hex code level!) deserve more respect than was shown in the video.

 
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The only group of people who I think that video would offend are the assembly diehards, who think assembly is the only way to go.
I think Dave referred to all assembly programmers as archaic dickheads in one part of the video. Not very classy.
At which point in the video did he say that? It might have been your interpretation but I don't think he said whose words.

I don't think he ever said, all assembly programmers are dickheads, just the zealots who bash everything else.
 

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I am a dick head for sure.  The transient generator that I now use to benchmark the multimeters was written entirely in assembler.  Squeezing those last few bytes out of the Motorola's 6801 2K ROM.   There is a separate DAC, ADC, watchdog, EEPROM and 22V10.  To add further insult, it was constructed using wire-wrap, doubling down on my dickness.    It was fun playing with old 80's technology but it could have been one microcontroller and C.   

My channels following is quite small.  Mostly I get the same repeating comments about how I am exceeding what the meters are rated, not reading the manuals, blowing up perfectly good meters.  Latest special post was about me applying DC to them.   Sometimes, I will check the poster's channel and more often than not, they will have links to children's video games.  It makes sense. 

PIC1 showing thumbs down for the last 90 days. It should not come as a surprised that the video I made of Dave's 121GW has the most down votes.  It has the most votes in general and is a fairly recent video.  I am surprised it beat out my using WD-40 in a handheld meter.   

PIC2 shows the breakdown of down votes for the 121GW video.   You would expect the USA with the highest total votes would also have the highest down votes but instead, it's 1 out of 76.   Just not a large enough sample to draw any sort of general conclusion really.   


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At which point in the video did he say that? It might have been your interpretation but I don't think he said whose words.
Try listening at 13:50 onwards. Just after his bizarre analogy involving kids' movies. He says assembler is for archaic dickheads. Seems clear enough to me  :)
 

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At which point in the video did he say that? It might have been your interpretation but I don't think he said whose words.
Try listening at 13:50 onwards. Just after his bizarre analogy involving kids' movies. He says assembler is for archaic dickheads. Seems clear enough to me  :)
You took it out of context. If you listen on, he then explains that assembly does have it's uses, just that writing everting in it is pointless.
 

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You took it out of context. If you listen on, he then explains that assembly does have it's uses, just that writing everting in it is pointless.
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You took it out of context. If you listen on, he then explains that assembly does have it's uses, just that writing everting in it is pointless.
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I'm glad you found it amusing. Perhaps I should consider a career change. ;)
 

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Perhaps I should consider a career change. ;)
Good point. Maybe you and Dave could become consultants for Microchip/Atmel? Presumably your new version of AVR Studio would have "Mad Assembler Dickheads Click Here" instead of "Start a new asm project" :)
 

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At which point in the video did he say that? It might have been your interpretation but I don't think he said whose words.
Try listening at 13:50 onwards. Just after his bizarre analogy involving kids' movies. He says assembler is for archaic dickheads. Seems clear enough to me  :)

I'll confirm it. He said it. Then he backed off to a less dogmatic position. Ahh, those were the good old days. That was always one of my favourites. Back in the garage grunge phase before he became famous. When things got up Dave's nose back then with that camera angle you could see it. Simpler times.
That's true and is probably why I missed it in the first place. Many people just hear something which offends them, then stop listening, so they end up taking it out of context and whining about it.
 

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That's true and is probably why I missed it in the first place. Many people just hear something which offends them, then stop listening, so they end up taking it out of context and whining about it.

Look, I (just) made a valid comment that Dave wasn't very classy in this video...

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I think Dave referred to all assembly programmers as archaic dickheads in one part of the video. Not very classy.

You then said (wrongly) that the above comment by Dave didn't exist. So I showed you where it was. The rest was just you trying to justify the comment and explaining why you hadn't spotted it (and me laughing at you).
 

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Guys, shut up and mod some old game ROMS in assembly. 8)

You will be converted.

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