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Microsoft Flight Sim 2020 to be released Aug 18
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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 19, 2020, 01:31:57 pm ---Looks pretty good. As for the MS flight simulator if they had a mode where you can crash planes with a load of people on board and you could view the aftermath with dead bodies etc, that would sell very well (like Grand Theft Auto). Not saying it is wholesome, but it would sell well.

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Sorry, but I think that would be pretty twisted, especially as it is sold as a "simulator", not merely as a "game" with planes. I'm sure the general opinion would find this unacceptable, and it would be likely to be banned in a number of countries anyway (including the US), as it could be seen as a tool for training terrorists or something. Are you sure you thought that through?
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 19, 2020, 01:31:57 pm ---Looks pretty good. As for the MS flight simulator if they had a mode where you can crash planes with a load of people on board and you could view the aftermath with dead bodies etc, that would sell very well (like Grand Theft Auto). Not saying it is wholesome, but it would sell well.

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Why not include a "Mile High Club" sequence in the simulator, that would probably increase sales even more!


--- Quote ---I toured the air traffic control simulator room in Toulouse because my son-in-law worked there. About 130 extreme performance graphics PC's running in parallel and a 360 degree view of being in the air traffic control room of any airport. The detail was so good, you could see the fuselage rivets on aeroplanes. Awesome. That facility attracts students from all over the world. It is so big, they have a bowling alley, a supermarket and restaurants on campus.

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It is really difficult to qualify to work as an ATC.  They test you pretty hard...
VK3DRB:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 19, 2020, 03:59:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 19, 2020, 01:31:57 pm ---Looks pretty good. As for the MS flight simulator if they had a mode where you can crash planes with a load of people on board and you could view the aftermath with dead bodies etc, that would sell very well (like Grand Theft Auto). Not saying it is wholesome, but it would sell well.

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Sorry, but I think that would be pretty twisted, especially as it is sold as a "simulator", not merely as a "game" with planes. I'm sure the general opinion would find this unacceptable, and it would be likely to be banned in a number of countries anyway (including the US), as it could be seen as a tool for training terrorists or something. Are you sure you thought that through?

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Ever seen Grand Theft Auto? GTA is popular in Australia - people download it and you cannot stop them. But we don't see terrorists addicted to GTA mowing pedestrians down in Australia. The Saudi Arabian terrorists used real flight lessons, books and their religious stupidity to commit their atrocities on September 11, 2001. I personally don't like violent games, find them boring and rather repulsive and to be fair many deserved to be banned. If MS provided realistic plane crash scenes, they would sell more; thus making Microsoft's shareholders more money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games.

I have used earlier MS Flight Simulators (I bought one once) and I found it to be boring. But a friend said this one could be a game changer - if you have a powerful GPU.
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 21, 2020, 11:25:40 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 19, 2020, 03:59:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on July 19, 2020, 01:31:57 pm ---Looks pretty good. As for the MS flight simulator if they had a mode where you can crash planes with a load of people on board and you could view the aftermath with dead bodies etc, that would sell very well (like Grand Theft Auto). Not saying it is wholesome, but it would sell well.

--- End quote ---

Sorry, but I think that would be pretty twisted, especially as it is sold as a "simulator", not merely as a "game" with planes. I'm sure the general opinion would find this unacceptable, and it would be likely to be banned in a number of countries anyway (including the US), as it could be seen as a tool for training terrorists or something. Are you sure you thought that through?

--- End quote ---

Ever seen Grand Theft Auto? GTA is popular in Australia - people download it and you cannot stop them. But we don't see terrorists addicted to GTA mowing pedestrians down in Australia. The Saudi Arabian terrorists used real flight lessons, books and their religious stupidity to commit their atrocities on September 11, 2001. I personally don't like violent games, find them boring and rather repulsive and to be fair many deserved to be banned. If MS provided realistic plane crash scenes, they would sell more; thus making Microsoft's shareholders more money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games.

I have used earlier MS Flight Simulators (I bought one once) and I found it to be boring. But a friend said this one could be a game changer - if you have a powerful GPU.

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I can tell you that, sim choice aside, if you populate it with nice, well-chosen human interface hardware, the flying experience can be profound. And time. What you put in is what you get back. Just like flight school. And it's easy for me to say cos I get to devote a fortnight every half decade to a orgasmic flight sim experience. And such, I consider myself an expert.

[yikes]
 ;)
SiliconWizard:
Not to add to the IMO thread derailing, but again GTA is a *game*, not a simulator. Besides, a game flagged with offensive/violent content IIRC, which excludes a range of users. And violence is an integral part of the gameplay.

A *simulator* is another thing entirely. "Simulating" human death is again pretty twisted IMO. If you can't see the difference with a "game", that's your problem. GTA is definitely NOT a simulator. There is nothing really accurate in it relative to how things are represented. A completely different goal. Whereas in games like GTA, violence is part of what can make you progress in the game (but is not meant to be accurately depicted either - it's not the point IMO), in a general purpose flight simulator, it would be totally gratuitous.

Beyond a questionable goal, contrary to what you seem to say, and as I mentioned, FS is marketed as a SIMULATOR, not as a plain game. They wouldn't sell more of it adding human death - people interested in flight sim are usually not interested in that, except probably if they are a bit twisted, which I like to think would be a small minority.

AFAIR, MS never even added material damage simulation after a crash - you can crash a plane, but won't really see how it ends up. Given how old FS is now, I'm pretty sure this has always been a deliberate choice.
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