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| coppercone2:
--- Quote from: raptor1956 on September 03, 2018, 07:09:30 am ---It is possible that the noise and other things were theater to cover the use of a chemical agent of some kind -- you know, a diversion. And, as you rightly point out, Russia is not averse to using chemical or even radioactive agents to harm/kill people. The thing with Putin's Russia though is that they like the world to know they did it hence the use of agents no street criminal can get there hands on, but in this case they, if they were involved, they have made no effort at all to say they did it unless the measures used is the signature. But, you have to recognize the signature. The fact that there are many people effected and some exhibit damage to there brains suggest that something indeed is going on, but just what is being used and by whom is in my mind -- not settled. The idea that Russia might wish to keep the US from becoming too friendly with Cuba is, perhaps, the most reasonable reason does tend to point a finger at them, but absent something more definitive as a cause there's too little to go on and too many possibilities. The only other culprit that comes to mind might be Venezuela, but one would think they are not quite in the spy-versus-spy league as is Russia, the UK and the USA. Brian --- End quote --- If it's poison / one time exposure thing then they can do alot to size up the people doing it using epidemology techniques. I believe there were actually some algorithms developed to basically look at crimes which may or may not be related (for serial killers) and use time constants related to travel and factors like transportation routes, traffic, weather conditions and all sorts of other factors so they can kind of predict when and possibly where a next strike will occur, but it might also be possible to use similar techniques to figure out how many perpetrators there are.. I think it's kind of like the bridges problem with velocity/propagation delay, so you can get minimum and maximum numbers for how many delivery trucks you need to carry out a delivery within however many days. What is scary is Russias cyber offensive capabilities, I wonder if they could totally hack the airports and stuff to make a large group of people untraceable. Cuban infrastructure is probably very weak, but they might use paper? Venezula is interesting because they think westerners killed their leader with radioactive materials. But driving a handful of people crazy does not really make sense as a vengeance action. But maybe they decided to use realpolitk after that point. I think this is kind of the problem with sanctions, you end up getting a country that has a weak police force and other players that can easily overpower it and use it as pawn. I bet there are no surveillance cameras in Cuba (I am guessing the FBI is interviewing old ladies that stare out the windows). I always wanted peace with them so I don't have to deal with a slum next doors. Slums always bring problems. Compare Mexico to Canada. If they were a rich belligerent nation you can at least easily tell if they are hampering the investigation.. with Cuba it feels like a coin toss. I think most of their cars are from the 1950's, its like a little Africa. But doesn't this all seem odd? I mean I can't even imagine a James Bond film about this. |
| coppercone2:
I located a likely suspect. |
| raptor1956:
Apparently the US Intelligence agencies, siting intercepts and other data, is pointing the finger at Russia in the attack on the US embassy staff in Cuba. I'll wait to see if more info is forthcoming given the limits on how much they can reveal about sources and methods, but this is not all that unexpected and is, in fact, one of the ideas some of us have talked about here. The US believes the purpose was to prevent Cuba from getting too close to the USA. Again, this is exactly what some of us have suspected was the reason. Still not much info and not much on the actual weapons/agents used -- again, I wonder how much will be revealed given the need to protect the sources and methods. Putin is going well beyond the norms with the use of 'little green men' in Crimea and western Ukraine, the poisoning of people in the UK, and the pervasive use of trolls in social media effecting pretty much everyone. This guy is a threat to the planet. Brian |
| In Vacuo Veritas:
These things are a menace if you bite into them fresh out the microwave This could be psychological torture, waiting for them to cool down... |
| raptor1956:
--- Quote from: In Vacuo Veritas on September 12, 2018, 02:59:59 pm ---These things are a menace if you bite into them fresh out the microwave This could be psychological torture, waiting for them to cool down... --- End quote --- As a comedian once said ... I put instant coffee in a microwave oven and almost went back in time! Brian |
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